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[–] Akisamb@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some members have stated as such but have been corrected by the leadership. Hamas, at least publicly, only said that they wanted to forcefully displace the Jews and that they would not hesitate to kill civilians to attain that objective.

Example: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senior-hamas-official-urges-palestinians-worldwide-to-kill-every-jew-on-the-globe

[–] Lynthe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh that's all? Thank goodness forcible displacement using coercive threats on a civilian population isnt a war crime. I don't understand why you are splitting hairs on the goals of this openly genocidal group. Supporting Palestinians doesn't mean you have to go to bat for Hamas.

[–] Akisamb@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Where do you see that I'm supporting them? I literally reiterated in many comments that what they want is a war crime. No need to invent some other objectives they are plenty awful enough.

Truth matters, especially in conflicts like this.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually resisting oppression and removing the oppressors from your land is indeed not a war crime.

Just like how the Ukrainians have the right to expell the Russians colonizing Crimea.

[–] Lynthe@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really didn't take much to get you in the mood to justify a targeted attack on civilians did it. I'm consistent in my view that it's wrong to murder civilians, but it doesn't seem like you are.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah just 75 years of brutal oppression and all forms of peaceful protests being massacred like the March to Return in 2018.

Was Ukraine targeting civilians when they invaded Crimea too? Some Russian civilians sure died from it.

Just forget all the propaganda you've been reading and look at the sheer numbers of miliary Vs civilian deaths.

You're really far gone down the IDF propaganda drain if you still believe Oct7 was just an attack on civilians.

It was a targeted attack on IDF military bases and also hostage takings on the Kibbutzes nearby. Yes "civilians" were killed but the amount is low compared to the amount of soldiers. Furthermore the israeli "civilians" were extremely heavily armed.

Those videos of Hamas throwing grenades inside shelters? IDF Soldiers were inside.

If Hamas was going for civilian casualties they would have planned pushing in further and would have likely been able to kill at least 10k

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yikes, so much misinformation, lies, and straight up fantasies in this single post.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Please do correct it with your evidence that isn't the IDF Twitter account.