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[–] SafCack@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I encourage everyone to watch this video about "The Pitbull Problem".

https://youtu.be/29dDlGUv6O8

It's not about how cute and cuddly they are. It's not news stories of them attacking kids. It's a look at the cultural narratives surrounding them and the actual data about Pitbull attacks.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No. I am tired of pitbull lobby. When they get angry they have the ability to cause more damage than any other breed and they get hella angry. You can be pretty freaken awful to the vast majority of breeds intentionally or otherwise and they will just endure it, not pits. And kids are freaken stupid. They will do things dogs aren't comfortable with. Then you get a dead kid. They were breed for a long time to be fighting dogs and mission successful.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Don't be a a bigot, one baby snack once in a while and pities are the most peaceful animals on earth, did I already told you that they are nanny dogs? Anyways just put a crown flower on them, the smell of flowers helps with the bloodlust.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The data shows that nearly every single fatal dog attack was by pitbull, with rottweilers being a distant second and basically no attacks from the other breeds

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are other dogs that are as aggressive or even more aggressive than Pitbulls, but the problem is that Pitbulls just don't want to let go when they attack. A pitbull attack typically doesn't stop until something is dead or severely maimed. The two main ways to stop a Pitbull attack are to kill the dog, or choke it unconscious. That's why when they do attack it is so much more likely to be fatal.

We definitely should require all Pitbulls to be spayed and neutered, and make them illegal to breed.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

I think a large bit of this is who statistically breeds them and why. They're a popular intimidation breed for lowlives and dog-fighter scum.

Pits can be the sweetest of animals, but I think a large part of this correlation is the simple fact that dealer houses happen to have no interest in killer poodles or pugs to keep rivals and cops at bay.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago

Maybe part of the reason is they're the most common dog?

The paper in the video linked showed German Shephards attacked the most people (all reported attacks, not just fatal).

Another problem is pitbulls aren't a well-defined breed with clear, "pure" bloodlines. There are a lot of different kinds of "pitbulls." Some pitbulls definitely are very aggressive, some are not at all.

I have a smaller pitbull (adopted from a shelter), and I've never seen her act aggressively toward a person. She is well behaved at dog parks and kennels with free-play with other dogs.

[–] SafCack@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One issue is that the data cited often is collected from news stories with the breed of the dog being guessed at more often than not. This leads to two significant problems. One is that any dog attack that's reported on will probably be severe. Other dog bites that are serious but non-sensational will not be counted. Two is that the dogs breed is haphazardly guessed at by either reporters or involve parties. Simply looking at a dog, especially a mix, it can be difficult to ascertain the breed and so one might just call them a Pitbull as a guess. Although I can't find data I would assume that pit bulls are used more often than other breeds for dog fighting, but I am ready to look at statistics and sources rather than simply confirm my own biases.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

any dog attack that's reported on will probably be severe. Other dog bites that are serious but non-sensational will not be counted.

That’s the point. Pits are more dangerous. When other breeds bite, it is not severe.

And as for dog breed, they ain’t confusing pit bulls for golden retrievers, Labradors, basset hounds, corgis, or a lot of other breeds.

[–] FriedCheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And also, sometimes the offending dog has their picture taken and we can all look and see that these are pit bulls.

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2022/01/2021-fatal-dog-attack-breed-identification-photographs.html

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bro people breed pits to kill today. Police pits are so scsry

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Police

there's your problem

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago

Police use pitbulls? Haven't heard of this. Any additional details?