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I’m the chimney sweep now!

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[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unions and strikes exist under capitalism, it’s dishonest to claim they are separate. Nobody implied “capitalists” are somehow noble or generous.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They exist in opposition to the forces of Capitalism. That's like giving the US government credit for the Civil Rights Movement, completely absurd. It was Capitalism that created child chimney sweeps, and the blood, sweat, and tears of Workers fighting against the Capitalists that ended them.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well they exist in the system that we have today, so what your statement implies is that our system has already have moved beyond capitalism. Yay us!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

No, that's not what I said. Again, you're giving credit for the Civil Rights Movement to the US government.

If a Movement goes against the system itself, you can't credit the system for conceding as though it was the origin of the Movement.