here are some hyper-polluting individuals:
- the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
- Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
- Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)
relevant quote:
But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.
—Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)
edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.
edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.
She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…
[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.
sources/timeline for the above:
- mid 2022, the media begins scrutinizing Swift for her flying patterns
- in response, Swift’s jet drops from 19 to just over 2 flights per month
- her flights pick up slightly with the start of her massive Eras tour but still significantly less than pre-July 2022
- December 6, 2023, Swift embroiled in election conspiracy theory, basically making her MAGA’s enemy number one.
- January 30, 2024, Taylor Swift gets rid of one private jet
- February 6, 2024, news outlets first report on the cease and desist.
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Is this because she's a woman or because she's a billionaire? I feel like we make fun of plenty of men too
It's because she's threatening to sue the guy that tracks the jet.
I'm quite confident that, more often than not, women face greater challenges than men.
This post is fucking weird.
Yeah, I'm not doubting the validity of the statement that women definitely have hardships men don't, but I really feel like that's not why she's being memed.
She is getting this attention because some very powerful people, who benefit from producing a lot of greenhouse gases, would prefer that everyone be mad at T Swift instead of them.
Tin foil hat take
Looks like the oil company representative found me :)
Its adorable you think swift sent lawyer threats at the request of an oil company
I never said that. You should practice reading more. Don't worry tones of people have overcome illiteracy. I believe you can too.
What did they do about overcoming irony?
Shes getting this attention for the same reason musk got it. She sent legal threats to someone legally pointing out public data about wasteful private flights.
Theres no secret cabal of oil magnates puppeteering internet memes. She is being mocked for trying to threaten someone over public info of her wastefulness.
Yeah, I agree, I think some of this is due to the streisand effect. And I think T Swift is dumb for trying to sue that reporter. But Elon got way less shit than this when he tried to silence the reporter tracking his flights.
As for the secret cabal of oil magnates, your right, they don't exist. There is a public cabal of oil magnates. They have done several astroturfing campaigns in the past that are now well documented.
...... Elon got so much shit for this he directly contacted the former twitter CEO to try and get the guy banned, and has privately said it was one of the driving factors behind his initial bluff at buying twitter, so your conspiracy theory is yet again slapped down by reality
A quick Google shows that Elon finalized the Twitter purchase in October of 2022 and the Elon jet Twitter thing started in December.
Was there another jet tracking incidents with Elon? Otherwise, it seems like you're confused about the order of things.
Edit: Turns out I had a Google fail. The December date was a second account at the journalist created. My information is not correct here.
Uh my guy
"Musk had also unsuccessfully petitioned Agrawal [CEO of Twitter at the time] to remove a Twitter account that was tracking his private plane,"
"The billionaire started buying Twitter shares shortly after Agrawal denied his request."
This took me 10 seconds to find.
Ah, I messed up. I should have dug deeper instead of reading the google summary. This is what I found on Wiki:
On December 22, 2022, Sweeney started the new @ElonJetNextDay Twitter account
But...
"the handle @elonjet.[10]
The Twitter account, created in June 2020, "
Sorry about that, I trusted too much in googles summary.
Was there a lot of meming about this on twitter when it was happening, or did Elon see like one or two memes and decide to buy twitter?