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[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 95 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Remember to encourage any military people you know to do this. It's a hard decision with the possibility of real consequences, the more support they have the easier it will be. And if you can push them farther left military trained personnel will be invaluable to any revolution.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 84 points 5 months ago

This is exactly the correct take. It's easy to say "fuck the troops" it is harder but no less necessary to also try to reach them when opportunity arises.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 63 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Troops willing to recognize that they're participating in evil and willing to do something about it is a carve out of "fuck the troops".

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

My problem with this logic is that a bunch of people who were convinced America was the good guys will be pretty useless in the larger context of the revolution if they're that easily swayed by obvious bullshit.

Sure you can try to reprogram them but what happens the next time a bloodthirsty fascist tells them turning on us is the real smart cool patriotic move.

They're useful as long as you can just plant them somewhere and point them in the right direction as long as we aren't counting on them to make any rational or moral decisions.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

My problem with this logic is that a bunch of people who were convinced America was the good guys will be pretty useless in the larger context of the revolution if they're that easily swayed by obvious bullshit.

unlike me, who is immune to propaganda

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Never signed up to kill a bunch of innocent people in random countries halfway across the world so feeling pretty good by comparison.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, people are fixed in their education and opinion at a particular point in time, never to change no matter what. very-intelligent

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago
[-] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

People’s susceptibility to large ideological shifts varies a ton throughout their lives based on all kinds of different things. It’s not a static property.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

https://soundcloud.com/eyesleft/girights

"A Guide to Getting Out of the US Military (Now) w/ the GI Rights Hotline" by the Eyes Left Podcast

Listened to this a week or so ago, the methods described are pretty straight forward and clear.

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