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Citing Wikipedia is not the own you think it is.
I'm not trying to own you. I'm trying to get a meaningful argument which isn't me being talked about as an animal.
I'm sorry that some comrades here have been dismissive toward you, but you seriously need to educate yourself more on a subject before you speak on it thinking that you have understood it. There are plenty of resources that the Lemmygrad community can offer you to further your knowledge about China if you leave your preconceptions at the door and come at this with some humility.
This lib refusing to educate themselves is how this whole thing started, I doubt they'll change their mind now, unless they want to prove me wrong about them.
Yeah, when i wrote that there were still fairly few substantial responses compared to mocking ones. But by now i see they've been offered plenty of good, comprehensive sources of information, and now that they're banned and can't waste as much time saying ignorant things here maybe they will have more time to read the material that they've been so helpfully provided with. Probably not though...they're probably allergic to reading as most libs are...
I was hoping they'd be sincere and honest and would actually ask "how can you support such regimes?!" honestly and earnestly, but it wasn't a question, it was smug pretending to be questioning.
I find it hilarious that I dropped multiple sources that countered what they said, but because I didn't treat it as a "gotcha" but just supplemental to what I was talking about, they didn't even notice. 100% debatebro brained.
Well, you did what you could. Can't reach everyone right away. Sometimes people need to have time to stew a bit and process new information. Sometimes it takes repeated exposure to the new ideas before they become more open to them. Which is why we should never stop explaining, even if it's frustrating.
I was very quick to start bullying them here, other people here were far more patient than I was. I think libs like this give their game away very early, and shouldn't be coddled, but mocked for their smug ignorance, I do appreciate the people dropping actual sources, I didn't make a big deal out of that because I've seen this liberal song and dance a thousand times, they demand sources, then either don't read them at all, or skim just enough to know they don't agree with them and demand "better" sources that confirm their preconceived notions. It's a waste of time trying to get them to read, but hopefully people watching the conversation read them at least.
I know I certainly do. Or let's say i try to do so whenever i have the time, even if i am already familiar with the subject. It's good to read more about a topic from a different angle that i hadn't considered before. So i am always thankful when comrades provide sources in their comments. I'm often too lazy or short on time to do the same, but i really should.