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South Africa’s President Cyril Ramaphosa said that any attempt to arrest Russian President Vladimir Putin when he visits the country next month would be a declaration of war with Russia.

Ramaphosa said in court papers that were released on Tuesday that “Russia has made it clear that arresting its sitting President would be a declaration of war.”

Putin has been invited to a BRICS summit in Johannesburg next month but is the target of an International Criminal Court arrest warrant – a provision that Pretoria as an ICC member would be expected to implement were he to attend.

South Africa’s diplomatic dilemma is playing out in court, where the leading opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), is trying to force the government’s hand and ensure the Kremlin leader is held and handed over to the ICC if he steps foot in the country.

In his response, Ramaphosa described the DA’s application as “irresponsible” and said national security was at stake. According to the president, South Africa is seeking an exemption under ICC rules based on the fact that enacting the arrest could threaten the “security, peace and order of the state”.

“It would be inconsistent with our constitution to risk engaging in war with Russia,” he said, adding that this would go against his duty to protect the country.

The arrest would also undermine a South African-led mission to end the war in Ukraine and “foreclose any peaceful solution”, Ramaphosa wrote.

The ICC treaty states that a member country should consult the court when it identifies problems that may impede the execution of a request, and that the court may not proceed with requesting an arrest if this would require a state to break international rules on diplomatic immunity.

South Africa is the current chair of the BRICS group, a gathering of economic heavyweights that also includes Brazil, Russia, India and China, which sees itself as a counter-balance to Western economic domination.

Putin is sought by the ICC over accusations that Russia unlawfully deported Ukrainian children.

South African Deputy President Paul Mashatile has said in recent interviews with local media the government has been trying to persuade Putin not to come – but so far unsuccessfully.

Signed in June and initially marked as “confidential”, Ramaphosa’s affidavit was published on Tuesday, after the court ruled it be made public.

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[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Shame on South Africa for supporting that terrorist.

[-] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No kidding.

I'm feeling eerily nostalgic for the (objectively terrible) Bush-era doctrine: "You're either with us, or we'll declare your nation a state-sponsor of terrorism"

[-] theinspectorst@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago
[-] fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

No, that's a declaration of Special Military Operation, which is completely and entirely different in an unclear way. No further questions.

[-] aurelian@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

As a South African currently abroad I have my popcorn at hand waiting for more drama to come.

[-] TheDarkFlame@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Yeaaah, not enjoying seeing the little bit of money I have stuck in RSA go up and down like a roller-coaster.

[-] aurelian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Paying attention to only the silver lining Is the the South African way I'm sad to say ^⁠_⁠^

[-] avater@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

that russian cunt is way to afraid to come to africa...

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

They will have to consider calling off the summit probably.

[-] bossito@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
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[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Vladimir I-will-take-Ukraine-over-in-a-week Putin will come and declare war on South Africa. If they're afraid, why not ask the west for help in case Poopin indeed does declare war? This sounds more like choosing sides than protecting his own country.

[-] exohuman@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

They are reliant on agriculture from Russia. They don’t want to damage that trade relationship. Climate change has made Africa less than ideal for many crops.

[-] GataZapata@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hate being this guy, but they are far from the only country denying lawful order from the ICC and the Hague. It's even debatable wether this is lawful, since Russia quit that contract in I think 2015

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act

[-] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Does anyone want to tell Russia that South Africa is in fact in the south of Africa, a continent which Russia is not next to? No? Ok…

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] wreleven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It would be no change then if Ukraine swooped in and arrested him in a special operation of their own?

[-] lasagna@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Can South African troops even exit the country without having their tanks stolen?

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