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Australia bans Nazi salute, swastika, other hate symbols in public as antisemitism spikes (www.cbsnews.com)

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Australian lawmakers have banned the performance of the Nazi salute in public and outlawed the display or sale of Nazi hate symbols such as the swastika in landmark legislation that went into effect in the country Monday. The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

The crime of publicly performing the Nazi salute or displaying the Nazi swastika is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, according to the Reuters news agency.

Mark Dreyfus, Australia's Attorney-General, said in a press release Monday that the laws — the first of their kind in the country — sent "a clear message: there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts."

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 158 points 7 months ago

"No one in Australia will be allowed to glorify or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis and their evil ideology," the press release said.

Glad to see someone mention the Profiting part.

I've always suspected a lot of this was due to grifters stoking these A-holes up to increase sales of the flags, shirts, hats, etc.

The Brandon thing was a big boon to the Maga grifters as it created more new things one needs to collect to show your true level of being a Patriot.

You could then change out your Trump flag curtains for the Brandon stuff. Some are brave enough to change them out for the Nazis stuff when the time is right too. It completes the set when combined with the Southern Surrender flags as your curtains or bath towel.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 30 points 7 months ago

I suspect that is also why their memes are quite slow to cycle trough. A lot of prolific figures need to sell their stock of stupid tat before they can move on to new things.

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[-] Chiyo@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese condemned the reports of the chants as "horrific" and "appealing" at the time of the incident.

You mean “appalling”, right? Hope that was a typo.

[-] sab@kbin.social 42 points 7 months ago

Solid typo on the side of CBS. Or, alternatively, a surprising amount of honesty from an Australian politician.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 15 points 7 months ago

Like a gay fundie describing Chris Hemsworth: "horrifically appealing!"

[-] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

There is a typo, he meant "terrific" not "horrific"

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[-] yZmHGnHnaB@sh.itjust.works 57 points 7 months ago

Good. We should do the same in the US too.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

Should do the same in every nation on earth, nazism cannot be allowed to flourish again. The cost of life is too high

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago

And Canada should as well.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's weird that I have to say this but this should also be done in Latin America.

Like, no, you're not Aryan, you're just pale. And you-- you're not even pale, wtf? You'd be the first one in the gas chambers, Pedro Contreras!

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

This reminds me of that black white supremacist skit.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then Chapelle got rich and decided to go full right wing

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[-] soda3x@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What implications does this have on media using the swastika? I know that for games like Wolfenstein the swastika is everywhere and while it doesn't really retract from the experience by being absent, it would be really strange for that to suddenly not be OK, especially in the context of Wolfenstein where you're tearing the Nazis a new one

[-] ours@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

German and Austrian versions of the new Wolfenstein games have swastikas and such removed/replaced.

I remember being pissed off the version sold on Steam to Switzerland was the censored version for no reason other than Switzerland is often stuffed with German and Austrian markets. When I blast sci-fi Nazis to bits, I prefer they look authentic.

[-] 9715698@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Since the last Wolfenstein game was released, the law has been changed in Germany lifting the total ban on Swastikas in video games.

I don't recall any more recent WWII games where I've seen a swastika though.

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[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

The actual law bans using the swastika to "glorify or profit from Nazi idiology".

Wolfenstein would not be impacted by the ban because at the core of the gameplay, the Nazis are the bad guys. It does not glorify the Nazis or celebrate them.

Sure Bathesda is profiting from the game, but they aren't profiting from the glorification of Nazi idiology, they're profiting from people's desire to shoot zombie Nazis in the face.

[-] Menu@slrpnk.net 12 points 7 months ago

It should becovered by freedom of art.

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago

Good for Australia.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Surprised they weren't banned.

[-] throwwyacc@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Probably because it hadn't been an issue until recently Strange times indeed

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

I mean, I'm fine with that. That seems like something that should have been done a while ago.

It's when they try and extend such things to saying any criticism of Israel is illegal, like what Germany is trying right now.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 26 points 7 months ago

Germany is not doing that at all. Germans are just aware of their past and almost all will therefore be careful what they say and also point that out to other Germans. It is not forbidden to criticise Israel though and probably it never will be. Most Germans will just be the last to do it on their own individual initiative.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

In Germany, debate rages over a state policy to support Israel, no matter what

As Gaza is bombarded by Israeli forces, a polemic is raging in Germany over a state policy that makes criticism of Israel blasphemous because it's seen as antisemitic.

https://www.courthousenews.com/in-germany-debate-rages-over-a-state-policy-to-support-israel-no-matter-what/

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It’s not a crime to not support Israel, just taboo and against stated policy. Policy isn’t law though

[-] Menu@slrpnk.net 16 points 7 months ago

I would not say it's a taboo within the German population to speak out against the current Israeli government.

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[-] Menu@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago

Where did you get that from?

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

In Germany, debate rages over a state policy to support Israel, no matter what

As Gaza is bombarded by Israeli forces, a polemic is raging in Germany over a state policy that makes criticism of Israel blasphemous because it's seen as antisemitic.

https://www.courthousenews.com/in-germany-debate-rages-over-a-state-policy-to-support-israel-no-matter-what/

[-] Menu@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a poorly written article that confuses with its wrong translation of "Staatsraison" and omits the classification of Samidoun as a wing of PFLP, declared a terrorist organization by both the EU and the US. Supporting terrorist organizations is illegal. People getting canceled does not necessarily mean they did something illegal, and there hasn't been a discussion about criminalizing criticism of Israel.

Criticizing Netanyahu's actions is very popular in Germany. It's just true that the German government does not do that enough.

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