EVs Are Sending Toxic Tire Particles into the Water, Soil, and Air (www.theatlantic.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/environment@beehaw.org

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The dark side of range anxiety: Currently available EVs stateside are far heavier than they need to be for a 10-mile commute, causing more generation of particulates from tires than ICE vehicles.

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[-] Roekkur@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago

This is a ridiculous article. I acknowledge that we could always do better for the environment, but the headline almost sounds as if we should stop producing EV’s and go back to our sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide emitting machines, which also tear through and shed tire waste because they do it 20% more efficiently. How about we focus on tire reconstruction to harder tires that have better longevity on heavier cars.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fucking seriously

Gaslight me harder, daddy. Was this written by an oil exec?

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Or, you know, also sell cars that fit standard daily use cases like commuting. People have never driven personal vehicles exclusively for 400-mile trips. We're just repeating the bullshit transition to SUVs for going around the corner for a gallon of milk.

[-] middlemuddle@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nissan Leaf and Chevy Bolt are those vehicles and they don't appear to be any heavier than their ICE counterparts. This article is just fear-mongering about EVs. Tire degradation may be a serious concern, but it's not actually unique to EVs and this article isn't really setting itself up to be taken seriously.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say it is unique to EVs. Not a huge fan of the framing of "they must be heavier," but it's important to know what sort of propaganda we're seeing on the EV transition.

[-] Seathru@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

Why aren't we taxing vehicles by weight? Regardless of what powers it. Wouldn't that incentivize smaller, lighter, and more efficient vehicles? Instead of the "I'm the biggest on the road" arms race we have now.

[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

OH wow.. whoah. idk where to start with this. Ok, that would require people to adjust their lifestyles and actually do something. But WORSE, it would ask the auto industry to change. Sorry, this is a non-starter.

Slash S

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It would make the roads safer as well. You're more likely to be badly injured or die in a crash with a giant SUV or truck than with a compact car.

The US should be using Japanese style kei cars for commuting, not Explorers and F250s.

[-] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They do in Australia. My 1.7 tonne station wagon costs a good deal more to insure than my wife's Kia Rio.

On the other hand, the fact we have to register each vehicle when we can only physically drive one at a time strongly discourages people owning two cars, so they end up with the bigger one in many cases even though most of the time a smaller car would be fine.

[-] MtnPoo@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

That's cars for you. Anything that large and convenient can't be good for the environment, no matter the power source or configuration.

[-] GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Then stop making big vehicles for the U.S. auto market and stop only selling big vehicles in the U.S. auto market!

https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo [NotJustBikes video about stupidly big vehicles]

[-] Jediotty@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Not just bikes my beloved

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