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[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 51 points 8 months ago
[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 8 months ago

What the GameStop bros fail to realize is that while they are essentially correct about the crookedness of the market, they have still backed a losing horse.

GameStop just doesn't offer most gamers good value so they don't spend their dollars there. This is on top of bad treatment of low-level employees, which is quickly becoming a death sentence for companies whose main demographics work retail jobs and know exactly how bad retail work like GameStop can be. Finally investing in shit like NFTs that no real gamer wanted or asked for. (On top of NFTs being a joke of a scam)

MOASS would be a beautiful thing but GameStop will not be the gust of wind that blows down this house of cards.

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 35 points 8 months ago

There is actually a fantastic video essay about Gamestop bros by Folding Ideas (the guy who made Line Goes Up) called "This is financial advise". I highly recommend listening to it, the whole thing turned out to be way more complicated than it seemed.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

Here's the vid in question, I second, it's very good.

https://youtu.be/5pYeoZaoWrA

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[-] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 6 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion! It was a good video. Also reinforces my belief that the rational, boring narrative is almost always the right one.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

I second this recommendation.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

The market is crooked, but not at the level of crazy conspiracies the Superstonk bros think / thought. A company took a big gamble on Gamestop tanking, and they were caught. They paid a huge price, and it's over. There's still market manipulation going on, there's still trading in dark pools, and the regulators are not able to keep up. But, it's not a crazy conspiracy with everyone trying to screw the little guy. It's big guys all trying to screw each-other, and screwing the little guy if they have a chance, and the regulators are trying and failing to keep up.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Exactly. I think the market is, on average, a good representation of value, but only over longer time periods and across sectors. All bets are off with individual stocks.

So I buy index funds, and that has worked out well for me. Buying individual stocks has more to do with psychology and gambling than analysis (e.g. buy Tesla because it's popular and will get more popular, not because there selling a lot of cars and will sell more cars), and that's just not my bag.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I would hesitate before buying any individual company's stock these days. There's just too much manipulation, hedging, FOMO, and just irrationality associated with any given company. Gamestop is a poster child for irrationality, but so is WeWork, where a lot of very serious investors somehow convinced themselves that a real-estate company should be valued like a tech company.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

(On top of NFTs being a joke of a scam)

They really are the platonic ideal of a scam. There's just so much nothing there. No facade, no structure, no foundation. It's the wire mother of wire fraud.

[-] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 4 points 8 months ago

Only sorta. I’m not sure how much they are right about the crookedness of the market - it’s just that retail investors are at a severe disadvantage to institutional ones.

What they did do was create a short squeeze for a bunch of folks (rightly) betting that GameStop is overvalued because it’s a shit company with no real path to an increasingly digital market.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

The problem, basically, is that the people saying "buy Gamestop" originally were people who figured "Hey, this stock is probably slightly undervalued." As in, this is $2 but it could probably climb to more like $2.50 or $3 over the next five years.

Then WSB started to meme the thing like crazy, because WSB are a bunch of degenerate gamblers who don't give a fuck about actual sensible investment strategies, which created the conditions for a short squeeze, which pulled in a bunch of newbie retail investors who drove the squeeze even higher, but were given absolutely no realistic expectations about what that would look like.

I was one of those newbie retail investors, and I actually tripled my money on GME, because I saw the price spike, went "Yep, that's the squeeze, I'm out" and got my tendies, or whatever the fuck these idiots call it.

But for a lot of these people, the expectations of what this short squeeze would look like had basically snowballed into "Remake the global economy with us at the top" so they bought in hard, and kept buying in, way past the point where the squeeze was done, past the point of having any reasonable expectation of cashing out at anything other than a huge loss.

So now they're stuck basically praying for a miracle, because they've got nothing else left.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, there are way too many folks who let the hype about an interesting technical trading opportunity go their head, got emotionally invested, and now are confusing it with fundamental analysis.

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[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

Don’t worry. The meme stock bros will come up with a new stupid narrative about how this was always part of the plan and how no one actually believed the NFT marketplace was the catalyst for moass. Just trust the plan and keep holding.

[-] emzili@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

Lmao no kidding, after reading your comment I went to google and typed in "reddit crypto gamestop nfts" and the second result was literally a 100% serious post from Superstonks 2 days ago titled "Why Gamestop's NFT Marketplace Closure Is A Great Sign". Forget bitcoin, if you want to get rich just invest in copium instead

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

GameStop could go completely out of business and they would still manage to find a way to continue the copium.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

There's even an example of that with a related cult, the Bed Bath and Beyond guys. Said company went under, but the memestock holders still continued the copium.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Stonks are at 1 cent, buy and hodl! Diamondhands!

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That's literally the new hyped plan and the reason the stock got a bump a few weeks ago.

The new idea is GameStop will become a holding company like Berkshire Hathaway as if Ryan Cohen is the next Warren Buffett.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

A lot of people who were into Gamestop didn't want them to get into NFTs like that anyway in the first place.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

Are they still at it? I thought this would have collapsed by now.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Its below 15 dollars atm and is continuing to fall.

[-] treetop@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

Nature is healing

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 38 points 8 months ago

Lmao, that's what they spent the meme stonks money on?

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

They also bought back a lot of their debt. The company did everything right, except selling anything people want!

Disclosure:I bought and DRSed one share near the height for fun.

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[-] BudgieMania@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised that they found yet another new way of making the Superstonk folk look like a delusional cult

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Well, they ticked off a bunch of hedge funds, so I think they were pretty successful. I would never take investing advice from them though.

[-] BudgieMania@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

any good that might have done is, in my eyes, outweighed by all the people that they irresponsibly hyped into gambling away their money when the party was already over

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Agreed. Still successful though.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago
[-] BudgieMania@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

...~160 eurobucks

bought one for the meme at like 250+ and rode it down the next week lol

I consider it the fee for getting introduced to the world of investing, which thankfully has been much kinder to me since then (the fact that I limited myself to putting money on indices is, of course, purely coincidental)

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Are you still holding?

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

One went bankrupt, many others made bank during the event aswell as during the delusion that followed. I can assure you that big money was the ultimate winner in all of this.

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Who could have seen this coming?? Who???

[-] FatTony@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only reason you would want an NFT is to make a profit. That's it. That's all the value and perks it had.

Bloody good marketing if you ask me. Right next to the pet rock.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

Everyone knew it was essentially a ponzy scheme. Even the defenders of NFT.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Less ponzi scheme and more shitty hot potato.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

I mean they were coerced into it by people doing pump and dump. They had to.

[-] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

Who knew that jumping onto a confidence game meme stock fueled crypto craze would not really work out for GameStop in the long term?

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Not thousands of GME cultists

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Don't let any company which chose to get involved in this blatant scam get exonerated just because they dumped it later. They still tried to pull the scam in the first place, and they only dropped it because they didn't make any money on it, not because it was a scam.

Always remember this.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

That weird WhyNotDRS instance is presumably having a normal one.

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