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Saudi Arabia won’t recognize Israel without a path to a Palestinian state, top diplomat says (apnews.com)

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 73 points 7 months ago

Without a Palestinian state and a multi-national presence to enforce it there will never be peace. The motive for attacks will remain.

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[-] maness300@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Imagine how much better the world would be if Jews migrated to the US instead of directly in the middle of people who hate them the most.

Zionism is a plague that is responsible for untold damage.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean that kind of happened already. There's a reason why the United States has the second highest Jewish population in the world, less only than Israel and not by much. Rampant anti semitisim in Europe among other reasons drove many to emigrate to the US. Between 1880 and 1914 alone, 2 million Ashkenazi Jewish people immigrated to the United States to escape ethnic cleansing pogroms in Eastern Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Israel doesn't give a shit. They were only interested in normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia to keep them away and deal with them later. Now that they've ripped their masks off and kicked the ethnic cleansing process into high gear, there's no point in normalizing relations. If Saudi Arabia has a problem with it, they'll be "regime changed". We've hit a point of no return.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

If the west was going to regime change Saudi Arabia they would have done it after 9/11, which was planned financed and perpetrated by Saudis. We invaded Afghanistan and Iraq instead, two enemies of Saudi Arabia that had nothing to do with it. Israeli and Saudi dick are equally down America's throat and I honestly don't know which one NATO would side with.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Saudi Arabia is a well-tamed bitch. There was no need to go after Saudi Arabia after 9/11 because they were already fully under control. Nah, a tragedy like that is best capitalized by taking down "rogue" enemy states like Iraq. Just look at the countries that the US has involved itself in, including Syria, Libya, Somalia, etc... these are countries that weren't playing ball. It's looking like Iran's turn is soon. After all these countries have been fully taken care of, the US can take down the tamed bitches like Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Basic divide and conquer, oldest trick in the book.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

To change the saudi "regime" you have to change the society itself because it is a tribal society. It will take at least one or two more generation to create any fundamental change in the kingdom.

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[-] steakmeout@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Yeah but fuck the Saudis.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

Yeah, it's terrible that they're the ones on the right side of history on this. It shows how low the US is willing to go to protect its ME interests. Literally morally lower than Saudi.

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[-] bilb@lem.monster 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's kinda unusual for Saudi Arabia to stick up for Palestinians, isn't it? Am I wrong about that?

ETA: After a little reading, it seems that I am wrong about that but "it's complicated."

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

SA has been working on a two-state solution for a while now, that was what Kushner was supposed to be working on during the Trump administration when he wound up getting a loan of $5 billion from the Saudis, however Qatar is the country where HAMAS leadership are hiding out.

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

Good.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Who cares? Saudis are a fundamentalist theocracy built on oil money

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Anyone who wants peace in the Near East as there's no way around the Saudis and their influence. They're a diplomatic heavyweight in general: Within the Arab world by tribal whatnot, elsewhere mostly fuelled by oil.

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[-] steakmeout@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

The Saudis are never on the right side of anything. They do not give a shit about Palestinians and they never did - this just how they attempt to be a thorn in the side of the US.

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