I was just perusing the big AMA with the CEO or whatever the spez guy is. They are not holding up well lmao.
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Popping my Lemmy cherry!
That ama is what convinced me that reddit is dead, and in like 3 minutes took me from being sad about it to enthusiastically watching it die.
Welcome! I just came over yesterday because I submitted a report, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED AND ACTIONED BY REDDIT, then got a week ban for abusing the report feature.
I guess they don't want us tying up resources as they work overtime to alienate the users that make Reddit worth a shit. 🤷
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I'd bet my left nut reddit will survive for quite a while yet, probably do even better over time
The kind of people who end up here just aren't the target demographic for them anymore
Maybe… but I’d guess in the same sense that Digg is still around. You’re right about the type of people migrating here, though - Reddit no longer cares about intelligent discussion, it’s all memes and snark and political outrage. They don’t want an informed populace, they want a populace that can be steered toward whatever they want.
This is not the first mass migration I’ve seen from Reddit, but this is the first one that feels like it might actually stick, for a couple of reasons: First, Lemmy finally feels like a viable alternative. Previous alternatives like Voat were quite abrasive - like I’m all about free speech, but I don’t want to see a bunch of hateful content just for the sake of being shocking. Second, this time they’re fucking with the mods. And while a lot can be said about the quality of the moderation over there, people abhorr being asked to do more with less, especially when they’re working for free. Lose the mods and the site is DONE. It will be overrun with spam so quick it’ll make your head spin, and then the last exodus will occur, quietly. And Reddit cannot afford to replace the unpaid mods with paid mods, they simply don’t have the resources.
It will be interesting to see how things go with Lemmy, but I have hopes - with it being decentralized, if a community becomes toxic or overly-censored it seems easy enough to spin up a rival on a different instance and filter the bad actor. At least that seems to be the pitch, let’s see how things shake out over the next year or two.
I’ve been on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the digg migration), but it is nothing like what it used to be - it’s changed, man, and not at all for the better. Lemmy definitely feels more like Reddit of old, and I’m excited to be here - now I just need to find my hobby communities and I’ll have my new internet home. But the communities will come, the apps will come, and I have high hopes. Let’s go!
I'd add a third reason that killing the apps materially affects all the people who were die hard app users. Previous proposed reddit boycotts were over some issue like the site firing the woman who organized the AMAs or some other moderation issue that for the most part didn't impact the rest of the experience of browsing. It's easy to forget how one subreddit got ruined or some admin drama because it feels distant from day to day browsing. Taking away the apps is impossible to avoid. App users can't just shrug about all this drama and go back to browsing the way they are accustomed to. Opening that official app is going to be a constant reminder of how ugly all this was. It will make sticking to a boycott much easier I think.
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I'm just hoping that most of my favorite niche subs move to something more decentralized; Reddit has a bunch of specialized communities that I'd hate to lose.
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Hear hear! I've been on Reddit over 15 years but fuck it, it's not worth the neverending fountain of bullshit.
Same here. I was going to stick around till the end of the month, but that AMA convinced to delete my account today and move on to better things. I made sure to leave a tip in the jar for Christian on my way out.
I paid for RIF is Fun Platinum Golden, just as a thank you to TalkLittle for his awesome work. I feel bad I never did it before, but I really appreciate them
I'm currently feeling both lol. I'm sad Reddit is making the decisions it's making. Having communities that big help find niche info. However I'm glad everyone is giving them hell for how they're treating devs and users.
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It really seems like they are tying to tackle two issues at once here (LLM training on reddit data, revenue from 3rd party apps) and they aren't doing a great job at communicating why they are making the API changes. It doesn't help that the company has a history of making empty promises, so nobody trusts a word they say.
It doesn't help that they're lying through their teeth trying to throw somebody under the bus who thought ahead and brought the receipts to the party 😂
Honestly, if there is one thing Huffman has demonstrated in that thread, it is that he need to be replaced as CEO. What an embarrassment.
Apparently he's been busted in the past editing comments critical of him to reroute them at various mods instead. haha
yeah, he did that to users in /r/the_donald. Which, given his own beliefs, is likely because he was mad his own people were attacking him.
I still miss Yishan telling us to look deep into our souls before wacking off to Jennifer Lawrence
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I just deleted my account which was over 10 years old. I don't need that kind of negativity. Only positivity from here on out. Keep being awesome Lemmy.
11 year old account here, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger. So much time spent on niche subs that will be hard to replace, but I suppose that means I should be more active in any similar counterparts on Lemmy to help them grow and flourish.
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I probably won't delete my reddit account until the subreddits that I'm relatively active in gain a bigger presence on Lemmy, but if that happens, bye bye reddit.
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If there's content on Reddit you absolutely must view, I definitely endorse RSS readers. No need for an account and you get rid of the infinite scrolling and data mining of the Front-page view
Wait, I didn't know that it's possible to use RSS readers to view Reddit. Just tried it out, and it's even better than using old Reddit (which I've been doing for ages).
Edit: Here's how to use RSS readers to view Reddit.
If there’s content on Reddit
And there are a lot of content there indeed. I find myself constantly appending reddit or site:reddit.com to my search engine terms in a desperate attempt to get information from real-ish people and not from SEO shit.
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I just joined beehaw myself (was fumbling around on mastodon for a while but to me it feels too much like a twitter clone). So far I'm really enjoying the genuine interactions on here. Very much has an old reddit vibe that hopefully will survive even with the upcoming mass migration!
I completely agree. It feels a lot like reddit did when I joined over a decade ago.
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I think I'm going to still use reddit to solve certain problems when googling. It's still a good resource for solving specific problems. Just won't spend any browsing time there. Just in an out.
Same here, Google has slowly become unusable for certain topics if you don't append "reddit" to your search.
It's way too hard to cut through the search engine optimized spam when googling something now. Especially for product recommendations all you get are random top X lists.
Yes! and when you actually click on them you realize the term you searched was only used by those pages as seo and aren't actually mentioned anywhere in there.
I started using DuckDuckGo actively in 2014. It has since been my primary search engine. It used to be very similar to google: minimalist, an ad placed as the first search result and that’s it. DDG has stayed pretty much the same. The few times I now wander on google to try to get different results, I just find it so unusable. Search results are swimming in an ocean of suggested content… I’m never going back.
Brave Search is getting better as well. The browser is already pretty solid, I'm using it now.
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I've noticed I'll type in the exact name of the website but forget the .com to tell my browser to go directly there, so it will do a search. My results show the site I was looking for halfway down the page, with the first half being ads and even competitors of the site! I'm not searching for items from the site but the site itself yet Google is so useless it shows me a bunch of similar stuff even when I gave it a specific.
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I still don't understand how everything works here but I love the positivity I see !
I'm gonna stay on my 3rd party app until the June 30 midnight close.. I want to try and witness one of the biggest tech crashes in modern history.
I really think reddit hubris has massively underestimated the user loss they're about to feel.
FUCK Em'!... (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
You overestimate how many people use third-party apps. They are the (very) vocal minority. They may represent a majority of the content submitted, but there's an arbitrary number of web users who don't have an account (hi) in addition to all the casual users who just use the app.
I don't think this is the death of Reddit, but I do think it's the dumbing down of Reddit. A lot of the power users that spend all day interacting and posting are going to be the ones leaving. Reddit will turn from a social community back into a simple link aggregator with people posting articles and having the same discussions over and over again in the comments.
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Yeah. Though the third party users are probably are the heaviest users so probably have an outsized impact on the content of various subreddits. So no, I don't think the lack of 3rd party clients and those users will kill Reddit, anymore than its killed twitter or Tumblr shennanigans has killed tumblr. That said I did just join today, and I do actually wonder given the death of 3rd party clients and the IPO when reddit will try to squash NSFW subreddits and posts. Thats the kind of thing I'd expect as they IPO and chase advertisers.
Average third party user creates more content than average redditor. Most mods use third party applications. That makes it different from Tumblr, where only nsfw communities were killed, so rare people that were there not for porn weren't affected. On Twitter, it's Twitters administration that moderates Twitter. On Reddit - it's users who does it. And as i've said, most of them use third party apps. That's how it's different.
Yes it's vocal minority, but that local minority is the reason why silent majority have content that keeps them on reddit.
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I opened Apollo yesterday and got the notification it was going to be shutting down on the 30th. It was such a bummer—I really don’t plan on going back to Reddit now. Treat it like Quora, at best.
I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit pulls an insta and starts hiding its content behind an account wall.
It's already what they are trying to do on mobile (first with NSFW content, but they blocked the old mobile interface...)
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I had a realization last night.
Used to spend a lot of time on reddit on ttrpg subreddits reading about how other people were running their games instead of working on my own campaigns. Now, a lot of the time I would have spent reading about how someone else was doing the thing I wanted to, I'm just doing it. The dynamic is inverted.
This is what healing looks like.
Ya - big social media companies are trying to make addictive products - so not the best for getting things done~
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For a week? I have a reddit account for I don't know how many years. And I visit reddit only if a search engine points me to it, to answer a question.
I'll miss what Reddit was but not what it's become. Good riddance to yet another enshittified social media site.
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