I’d say adding 8.4 trillion to the debt is pretty freaking awful. That’s 24% of today’s national debt.

Tax payers took no risk, taking risk implies having an option. Tax payers were forcibly handed the debt burden with no vote. American citizens are the ones who pay the price of the failures of the wealthy. American workers who keep our society functioning are robbed on a daily basis, we should have never taxed income.

which meant tax payers had to take the hit when Solyndra (which got money from the same scheme) bankrupted itself into the toilet, tax payers took all the risk and got shafted both when a company failed and when one succeeded.

The loan program that gave money to solyndra had like a 2% default rate. For anyone concerned about climate and switching to green energy, it was a big success. Implying it was some big failure based on what appears to be a well calculated risk, is unfair and just pushing the propaganda spread by parties who don't want the government to do anything to save the environment.

Another big thing is to understand that the interest on the debt is typically lower than inflation, so deficit spending is actually cheaper than paying cash for everything.

I’m confused…the government does own a bunch of stocks and makes a good return on them. Granted it’s the portfolio of individual congress members, does that not count?

Because they don't really care about the deficit.

They want to cut social programs and the deficit is their excuse.

If the deficit didn't exist, they'd create a new excuse without blinking.

It's a very important thing to remember when dealing with them:

They lie constantly and without remorse.

Like the whole "return to office". They weren't really mad about that, they just want to shrink the federal government. And return to office makes federal work less attractive.

However Biden thought they were being honest and he could score points forcing every federal agency to do a return to office for everyone....

He did that, and Republicans immediately stopped talking about. He pissed off every federal employee that isn't maga and even those maga ones just immediately forgot about the issue.

You're not changing anyone's mind if they are in the base. This is information for swing voters who care about the debt.

If I remember the articles being written at the time, his tariffs hurt American farmers by causing China to buy from other countries. He then used stipends to make up the difference to them so they weren't out the money. The result is, he damaged our trade position, used taxes to cover it up, and American Farmers still love him and don't understand they were receiving the dreaded "Guvment Handouts".

And at the cost of counter-tarrifs paid out of consumer pockets