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President Joe Biden has chosen Adm. Lisa Franchetti to lead the Navy, an unprecedented choice that, if she is confirmed, will make her the first woman to be a Pentagon service chief and the first female member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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[-] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am amazed that we’ve never had a female on the joint chiefs of staff .

[-] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 year ago

There's a ton of baked in misogyny in the military.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rapes? What rapes?

*quickly sweeps something under the rug*

[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Colonel, you raped her? Congrats on your promotion to General.

[-] venorathebarbarian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's 2023 ffs. I too am amazed (and shocked, and appalled) that we've only just now gotten a woman on the joint chiefs of staff.

Sucks when I can't even be excited cuz I'm just so disappointed it took this long.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

She's not there yet. We have to convince Coach to not throw a fit over it first.

[-] venorathebarbarian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ugggggh I forgot about that. So, it's not happening then. Probably. Maybe next decade.

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well the military is about 99% men, and even less women sign up past the first 8 years. It makes unfortunate sense.

[-] teuast@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

this is an important step forward for the fight for equality in killing civilian children overseas and forcefully turning away asylum seekers

[-] Honey_Enjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago

TBF I think having more diversity in military leadership especially could lead to diversity of thought and help improve the US military as a whole, including pushing them towards a less war crime heavy future. I understand your point - I don’t even disagree, really - but I think this is also a genuinely good and newsworthy thing.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

The problem is the system that creates this people, not what's in their pants, though. It's not like she's suddenly not going to be part of the military industrial complex cause she's got girl parts.

And even if that were true, one person being different isn't going to make that much of a difference.

[-] Honey_Enjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

the system that creates this people, not what's in their pants

True, but the system treats women pretty poorly, from what I’ve read and heard from a friend of mine who’s a woman in the military. Everyone’s different, but I hope that spending years in such a sexist system would inspire them to make change.

one person being different isn't going to make that much of a difference.

I don’t mean to imply they alone will turn the US military based or anything, but being on the joint chiefs and head of the Navy means they could do a significant amount of good.

Realistically I need to wait and see if she’ll actually be a net positive (assuming she actually gets the job) but I think it’s reasonable to see this as a good sign and approach it with cautious optimism - just as it’s reasonable to not care or roll your eyes.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's less of an onus of "she will fix everything because she's a women" and more "a woman made it this far and thus things may change for the better". But the problem is, when such misogynist (or racist, or whatever other -ist you want to think of) system exists, people who are mistreated by that system often have to accept and often promote that kind of system just to get to a position of power.

It would definitely be nice if things changed for the better, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than one person at the top to make that change. And, for all I know that change is already happening, and is part of why Admiral Franchetti has gotten to the place she has.

[-] Honey_Enjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Very well put. I agree with all of this

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

TBF I think having more diversity in military leadership especially could lead to diversity of thought

I love your optimism.

[-] Honey_Enjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I mean could ≠ will lol. I think it’s more likely to be a good thing than a bad thing, but it’s most likely to be nothing

[-] SattaRIP@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago
[-] shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Despite it reading like she was always the obvious top pick you just know some people are going to turn around and say Biden's only doing it because of the historical significance of her being the first woman to hold the spot.

[-] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Hey if she’s qualified have at it. I don’t know why people would make it an issue. People are weird.

[-] Prox@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Will this also be held up by Little Tommy Tuberville?

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

When Life imitates Art.

[-] ghostface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

sky marshal We can Ill afford another klandathu

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