Abolishment of white supremacy necessarily results in the erasure of the core of White identity since whiteness is a construct that is rooted in the idea of white superiority.

Making another post because I wonder if the sheer amount of white people doing it is because, unlike what reactionaries think, non-white comrades aren’t actually “reverse racist” against white people, and probably are genuinely uncomfortable with doing the bit. I might be wrong, I’m a white so I don’t know for sure.

It could also have something to do with the fact that statements of hatred against all white people is something that meets physical consequences in the real world for non-white people when they say it, so unlike white people who are able to say it without consequence, non-white comrades have to struggle past the ever-present implicit threat that white supremacy poses to make any such statement.

So these two things might be why we usually see “fuck all kkkrakkkers” type posts made by white people. It’s both a lot more awkward to jokingly deride a group you’re not a part of, and similar behavior is more likely to receive backlash by white supremacist forces IRL when it is done by non-white as opposed to white people (I only use “non-white” as a signifier here to denote between people with and without white privilege)

damn, never would have guessed that the thread on would evolve into a 3-month long struggle session

Whitey here, im going to embrace my innate ability to be insufferable to tell you and by extension whoever you're talking bout delete this dumb fucking post and delete your dumb fucking infighting.

Creating or contributing to a gossipy slapfight is not praxis

nah bad post, unlimited cracKKKercide on mySSelf

My list of my three least favorite things in the world:

• Protestants

• Suburbanites

• Cops

Are you happy? I didn't explicitly say I hate white people, I only hate the three whitest institutions that they hold dear.

The wreckers are coming from inside the house.

I'm not white and I think it's a good thing, because 90% of white people go when you actually start talking about eurocentrism, physical material, and the fact that their special snowflake status didn't materialize out of thin air or the "superior quality of their spirit" or some other euromystical witchcraft shit dressed up as pseudoscience, but rather from the fact that they lucked out by finding two megacontinents of free shit

If a white person is unbothered by some racial self-flagellation it's a good indicator that they don't have a massive ego based on vicariously identifying with their race, AKA are "one of the good ones" (And let's be honest, there's a lot, a looooot of bad ones out there, some very bad hombres!)

Also, the entire rest of the english-speaking internet is filled with racist jokes about every other race EXCEPT white people, and you get censored/downvoted/banned if you ever do make such jokes about the crackers (even if they're really objectively funny, I got mass downvoted for making a joke about the "mayo clinic" for example)

so yes making fun of white people is good. I am not white.

After certain events the past few days of white people being insufferably racist I'm just gonna say I don't mind the posting. In fact, I find them quite cathartic.

Those threads always read like an upgraded version of what a lawn-sign liberal might say: "ooh! I'll genocide myself for you! Unlimited Genocide, too! This will be the generation we fix systemic racism!" White guilt havers are willing to grovel, but not willing to put in any work. And then the hiding behind "it was a joke bro, just a prank." It's a big reason why I don't post on this site more often.

Cracker

I'm the whitest guy who ever whited. If I go outside in the sun for ten minutes my skin flakes off. But I still find it kind of weird to have "white" as an identity rather than just a skin color. Maybe it's because not being American I was brought up with a different set of brainworms but "white" as an identity seems to be so devoid of any meaning, outside of white supremacy, compared to actual ethnicity or culture where you have a history, a language, a shared set of myths and folklore and traditions and whatnot.

I understand that you would want to rebel if you had a white identity pushed on you and understand how problematic the concept of whiteness is but I can't help feeling that all the self-deprecating anti-white posting is just another way of expressing whiteness as an identity. It's not something that bothers me a lot but it still feels a little weird.

What would be an actually interesting discussion to have would be one about deconstructing whiteness both on a larger scale such as in societies and in organisations and on how you handle being given white privilege on a personal level.

its a Usian thing I think, you've got a peculiar and unresolved relationship with so-called 'race' - your government still subscribes to racial theory in its administrative definitions. The arguments tend to be different (more pertinent to the issues) in other countries, and in 'non-white' US.

of course, color is an aesthetic argument, and it isn't an intrinsic property of a thing or person (and 'white' is indisputably a type of color). And aesthetic arguments, like the debates about 'taste' when it comes to media or consumption, are somewhat pointless. I think people argue about aesthetics when they've got no other pressing concerns, which isn't a bad thing per se, just unrelatable to people who do have those pressing concerns.

obviously, this is a US website (like most websites) so its to be expected that you have these kind of discussions, and hyperbole is a natural aspect of that. But really, it might be good to remember to be somewhat internationalist, and be aware that attitudes/understandings toward terminology, and also to so-called 'race' aren't universal. These kind of discussions, on this topic, are very insular.

I don't mean to criticise, I can see where the sides are coming from and why the arguments happen like they do here. But really, it makes no sense to say 'white people', referring to a kind of construct, outside of the US (and probably inside parts of the US). People will just read it as the skin color, or a proxy for or reference to 'racial theory'.

It would be better, and more accurate I think, to refer to yourselves (the 'white people' of the US) as European settler-colonists, since that's what you are. 400 years isn't that long at all - line 5-10 people up in space, and its not much at all, line them up in time/generations and you get 400 years.

Really, in the sense of a paradigm of understanding the world around us, leftism is a religion, albeit a generally atheistic/untheistic one like some east Asian 'religions'/philosophies (you can see its origins and similarities in other religious movements like the Hussites for example or the Zaydi Islam). So its to be expected that self-flagellation occurs. But self-flagellation is just self-indulgence - maybe useful for some, but not for the many.

DO NOT KILL ALL OF THE WHITE PEOPLE!

They still need a century of humiliation

It's funny, there's more activity of posts about self-flagellating kkkrakkkas or whites than about POC themselves

Like wtf, man, I know you hate yourself, but don't make it your entire joke's existence

And destroy the empire itself, numbnuts!