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[-] paskalivichi@sh.itjust.works 109 points 8 months ago

The Gordon Ramsey of software

[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

In a parallel universe, there's a version of Linus who runs a restaurant that makes noma look like a taco bell.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It's pretty funny that Gordon Ramsey is actually a sweet guy and plays up the angry cook guy on TV.

[-] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

In the UK version of Hell's Kitchen you can see this side of him. In one episode he just hung out at the beach with his whole team and it was so wholesome.

The US show is cut in a way that emphasizes his outbursts, it's much worse.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Eh, this is somewhat true, and he's dug into this a few times. Some is put up for TV, but he's inclined to be annoyed at people that call themselves chefs, take people's money, and serve them sub-par products. In a few shows, like the one with Angela Hartnett where she took over The Connaught, it showed that he's still an angry dude, but that it was needed because he's taking over the restaurant at one of London's finest hotels. Michelin Star places seem to be the same boiling pot of bullying and anger to strive for the best possible quality.

Some chefs, like J Kenji Lopez Alt have called it and him out several times on it, because it's a very damaging practice, and one that spreads throughout the industry from wannabe Ramsay's that thinks intimidation is needed to make food.

I'm sure Ramsay is a lovely guy in person, but I would hate to work for him.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

18 years in restaurants checking in: Gordon Ramsay is not very far from the mean at all. In fact, I'd say he's a mean mean man of average rage, and it's the nature of the industry that does this to us. It's flat-out abusive even in its best implementation, and the far and away vast majority of restaurants are purposefully exploitative. This goes double for back of house. I was usually a server or bartender, though I did work every hourly position at some point in my career. Front of house at least gets compensated more the busier they are. Back of house gets what they get whether they sell two orders of fries in an evening or they spend all shift with ten tickets on the rail and 30 open menus. Back of house also doesn't get paid all that well, outside of a few rockstars. It's a super high stress position, and that stress level is completely unpredictable. Any random Tuesday afternoon you could find yourself behind the line all alone as the third bus pulls into the parking lot. The extremely variable nature of the stress means two things:

  1. You don't cook as a career unless you love turning out great food. You might do a couple years just because you need a job but it's so hard on your mind and body that after a while you literally either love it or leave it.

  2. Eventually everyone in the kitchen becomes what Robert Anton Wilson called "...the walking wounded...slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief." There's a lot of PTSD in kitchens and, because hurt people hurt people, it tends to spread to new people and reinforce itself in veterans. In the highest volume store I ever worked in we used to joke that sexual harassment and bullying were just how we said "Hello". It's not okay, but it's the reality on the ground. It tends to develop spontaneously because of the way restaurants work and once it takes root it's really hard to get rid of.

So the average restaurant worker is half Anthony Bourdain, here for the love of food and people, trying to experience new and great things and build new and great things for other people to experience just out of a general enthusiasm for humanity. He's also half Gordon Ramsay, throwing an overcooked steak back at you because a cow had to die to make it and our guest had to sell a little bit of their life to afford it, so you will fucking respect both of their sacrifices and turn out some good fucking food. It's love, and it's pride, and it's trauma, and it's passion for what is essentially an unrecognized folk art. And if it paid the bills I'd go back in a heartbeat.

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[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The tone may be a bit harsh but it's muuuuch better than how he used to be during his most toxic days. This is how he used to talk: https://www.networkworld.com/article/706908/security-torvalds-to-bad-security-devs-kill-yourself-now.html

Linus definitely got much better at handling his anger since his public apology in 2018.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago

[I]f you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace ‘my kids’ with ‘sales people on the road’ if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place,” he wrote.

Hah love it

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[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 38 points 8 months ago

You should do one of these a day.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 32 points 8 months ago

A whole calendar with classics such as:

Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago

Damn, you know, that's a pretty good idea, a callendar with Linus quotes 😂.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You could make the memes manually, or like a true programmer spend several hours if not days making a script that make them for you.

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[-] jwr1@kbin.earth 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Agreed

Also, someone should make a dedicated community to Linus Torvalds quotes.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

Not mine stole it.

I've made like... probably 50 or 60 memes, but they're not that good.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago

I’d be so happy if he was yelling at me directly

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago

At least someone cares for me enough to yell at me, right... RIGHT!?

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

YOUR CODE IS SHIT AND YOU ARE SHIT

Omfg I love this guy

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

"we only criticize people we care about. If you're messing up, and no one's saying anything anymore, you're in a bad spot"

-- Randy Pausch, "Last Lecture"

[-] pressanykeynow@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 8 months ago

Notice me, senpai.

[-] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 20 points 8 months ago

The follow-up discussion was informative and the original commiter learned something. We all learned something when we read the discussion.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

Like I really don't know anything about kernel coding.

[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

You know that you can make people very upset if you do it wrong. That's something.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Yes, that much I know 😂.

And it's completely fair to be honest, a lot of shit depend on that kernel and code. If nothing else, it's not nice if you screw up.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 months ago

Linus needs to make no corrections to his behaviour. His apology was needless.

He only flames those who make dumb mistakes, should know better, keep doing it, and don't respect the gravity of the situation. Linux is used on MARS. Pretend to care.

There is a pattern to the people who get upset when they've earned a rebuke from Linus. Those people could get over themselves.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 28 points 8 months ago

Well, kind of.

Linus needs to call out bad code, it's an important part of Linux's quality control. He doesn't need to tell people to kill themselves.

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[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It's like a metaphor for Linux itself

Are you allowed to make changes to the kernel? Sure, go ahead.

But FAFO applies. If you come at the king, you'd best not miss.

[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 10 points 8 months ago

Linux "Based" Torvalds

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

At this point he's to coding what Gordon Ramsay is to fine dining.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I literally just wrapped a web app I've been working on for a few months. I'm so proud of myself. I take a deserved break and see this.

I hate everybody.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

lol 🤣🤣🤣

[-] thisbenzingring 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He's keeping his promises. He didn't swear now did he? Hahaha only someone like Linus Trovalds would have his business life upended and be forced into an agreement that he would stop swearing at people

[-] lawrence@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

There is no problem with reusing code, as long as you take some time to understand it.

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[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Copy pasta is a dish best served cold.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

It's disappointing to see this kind of stuff still happening. Adults do not act this way. Do better, Linus.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

Yes, they do... I see it every day on the street while driving home.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The only thing worse than code I don't understand is code I do understand that's literally been copied and pasted sixteen times in the same file.

Literally encapsulation, its the first fucking thing they teach you in Dev 101, my fucking god people please I'm begging you!

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I went to school for actuarial sciences but im basically an overpaid python programmer. If an actual dev evee see my code, they would shot in the face for sure (at least my boss thinks im a magician because I do in half an hour in poorly optimized python code processes it took him days to do on excel). I don't even know what encapsulation even means lmao.

[-] Kempeth@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

Basically if you need the same logic in two places instead of copying it to the second place you make it into a function and use that function in both places.

That way if you need that logic to change you only need to make that edit once regardless of whether you use it one time or one thousand times.

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