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theiss-explanation we're never getting change outside of third worldism bruh

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[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

A worrying number of neoliberals are just fascist with the serial numbers filed off

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

They almost have a point when it comes to highly utopian Western leftists. Rather than embrace nihilism, left politics can offer another way to hope without a material grounding, buy of course this only works if the strain of leftism has been stripped of its material grounding.

You will actually see this pretty often among various idealist parties and orgs, even ones that claim to be Marxist but bamboozle themselves with naive electoralism or becoming detached from their communities or supporting all unions no matter how reactionary.

But once you actually have a material grounding, it's the exact opposite. Socialism provides a material goal and outlet and a project to work for in your own life and together to achieve revolution. Christian revivals are just the incoherent fusion of apocalyptic prophecy about how nothing but belief in Jesus matters and the United States' most reactionary political tendencies that emphasize that every marginalized group must be invalidated and crushed.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I feel like if I also did word substition I could make anyone sound like anyone else. I could probably make slavery abolitionists sound like they're naive and asking for utopia by using the same paragraph. Anything can sound like anything else if you change what words you're saying.

"I love drinking tea because it's warm" ok just change drinking tea to arson

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i mean i agree. moralism is not particularly useful to the revolutionary. a politics which focuses almost totally on individual culpability, identifying it in others and reducing or downplaying one's own, is a dead end. neoliberalism already encourages this kind of individualist moralism in its subjects, why would those of us who call ourselves leftists automatically be free of it?

[-] HeavenAndEarth@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Ok, but I've definitely seen online leftists like that

[-] glans@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

serial numbers filed off

way to troll the vangies saying we're the ones who've evaded mark of the beast

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Famously anti-organizing lefties who don't tell each other to touch grass all the time.

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