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[-] basedposter@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 year ago

It surprises the west that a government is so well liked by its citizens. They don't understand how China is improving everyone's quality of life. Not like in the US, where it only improves the lives of the wealthy.

[-] AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/14tf2bx/as_an_american_its_no_wonder_our_citizens_are/

"As an American, it’s no wonder our citizens are distrustful of CPC. In addition to a lifetime of propaganda, we have never experienced a government with citizens’ interest in mind

Nearly everyone, if not every single person, in America that will read this has never seen our government and politicians do ANYTHING that would advance the lives of its citizens, no matter how small the action might be. When/if anything slightly beneficial is done, cynical ulterior motives are the reason. Advancement of ruling class interests are the overwhelming reason we get anything, i.e. paltry checks during the covid pandemic.

We have never known otherwise. When Americans see the Chinese government implement policies that increase the wellbeing of the population, their minds automatically assume it’s for nefarious reasons. The thought of a government ensuring their citizens are safe, taken care of and prosperous is unheard of.

No matter the party affiliation, or if they’re avowed communists all the way to the far right base of Republican neo-fascists, everyone knows politicians that make up the government are A.) beholden to capital and B.) out for themselves.

Congress is laughably unpopular, if not right out loathed by all of us. When decades of racist propaganda, fabrication and malicious lies are added to the mix, no one can possibly fathom leadership being altruistic."

[-] Blinky_katt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Arguably, this is part of cultural DNA of the united states, which forebears arrived to escape authoritarian persecution, and whose Constitution assumes the state is there to deprive the rights from citizens, which must be protected from the state via laws, rather than believing that a state can also work to specifically enact and protect those rights, that without a state there ARE no rights.

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I mean the authoritarian persecution was that everyone kept running them out for being hyper-reactionary religious weirdos, and tbh the genocidal settler state they would go on to build has kind of proven their persecutors right

[-] pax27@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

It has been said that the British settlers that went to America arguably didn't escape prosecution as much as they escaped to prosecute others freely.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Nearly everyone, if not every single person, in America that will read this has never seen our government and politicians do ANYTHING that would advance the lives of its citizens, no matter how small the action might be. When/if anything slightly beneficial is done, cynical ulterior motives are the reason.

This mentality is actually part of the problem: the right-wing talking point that governments never ever ever do anything good. See the Reagan quote about "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." It's demonstrably untrue and we shouldn't fall into reinforcing it from the left.

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago

It's so unbelievable that a populace would support its government that westerners will invent conspiracy theories to explain it away.

People here would seriously rather believe that all 1 billion+ Chinese people are brainwashed or paid actors than to believe that the Chinese government is good, actually.

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We only know the fucked up abusive relationship we have with out own government, and our programmed sense of superiority makes us project it outward.

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Hard to sell China as undemocratic while USA has 80% unsatisfied with the state of the country (Pew Research poll from April 2023

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

They've literally just flip flopped, and now insist that being unhappy with your government is the sign of a true democracy.

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

These are the same people who will tell you to read 1984 to learn why communism bad

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I've had that conversation before.

"So this book is an analysis of the flaws in communist methodology?"

"I don't know, I've never read it. I just know it says communism bad."

[-] BlueberryGod@mastodon.social 16 points 1 year ago

@yogthos It sucks that if you tell your average Joe this, they will call you every slur in the book.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago
[-] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Is there a more updated version? The link was published 3 years ago.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago
[-] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Every time I try to download the 2022 report, it fails every single time.

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