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Pie Chart of Gender Identity for c/Trans (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/trans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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I likely accidentally counted people twice or skipped someone, but regardless here's a general idea of the makeup of our population from the sample size of the post I made.

Also, it shortened transmasculine/feminine nonbinary on the graph.

I typed in the value for cis women as zero, and it didn't show up on the chart so keep that in mind.

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[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 4 months ago

I will do literally anything but finish the essay that was due two days ago

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago

Was I counted as binary trans or transfem? :3

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago

I think I counted you as binary...may have accidentally put you in both categories

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago

Both would be accurate for me :3

I'm a girl.... Mostly

Sometimes I'm a soft boi...for like 5 minutes

Sometimes enby :3

All the time a gay cat :3

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

Sounds like you're gender fluid as opposed to a binary trans woman

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I think I'm a gender fluid demigirl

In all my states im comfy with girl

[-] Krrygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago

Funny that there were four cis men and exactly zero cis women. Our community is out of balance!

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

Yup, and there are more cis men than trans men

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

I'm a ciswoman. I don't subscribe, but I often read posts from this community on my main feed, and 100% support trans and nonbinary people.

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

Wooohooo, we've got our first cis woman. I'll add you to the updated chart.

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Please make a comment on the other post so I'll remember to add you

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago

Hmm

How many of those cis men are actually cis men? :3c

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

Can't remember if I took the poll, cis man but very queer lol.

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

Everyone is welcome here

[-] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago

Yiss :3

All queer ppl cool :3

[-] Semivir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago

Interesting result. While there is no evidence suggesting the general population is out of balance when it comes to ratios of transfemme vs transmasc identities, my observation is hat online expression is biased towards the feminine side of things. Your quick and dirty little survey would suggest the same.

Very curious if this is indeed the case and if so, what causes the bias. Do transmasculine identifying people just touch more grass? Does transfeminine content attract cis men to a larger degree than transmasc content attracts cis women? Therefore causing a bias in content delivery and by effect engagement? Or am I just suffering from confirmation bias and am I more likely to notice transfeminine stuff?

Feels like this sort of stuff could be a cool research project. And there's likely a buttload of data available just from regular posts.

And sorry to all of you enbies for focusing on the extremes of the spectrum. You're just a little more difficult to fit into these comparisons because your whole deal is defying categorization as either. I promise you are interesting too!

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"When asked how they think of themselves, a plurality of trans adults identify as non-binary (40%), with about one in five identifying as trans women (22%) or gender non-conforming (22%), and a smaller share identifying as trans men (12%). Others say they identify in some other way (2%)."

Source

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

whats interesting in that survey is that when referring to sex, it is basically an even distribution. so that means afabs are identifying in more diverse ways, as the sexes are basically even

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

That's true. I was thinking of the ratio of binary trans men to trans women originally. I wonder if it's because afabs are socially allowed more freedom from the binary and amabs feel like they have to conform more for safety and to avoid stigma.

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

that or maybe there is more stigma of being seen as a man in their minds?

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Wdym

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

this is more of something i heard from an enby friend, but they felt like masculinity was sort of toxic in their heads so they dont feel comfortable identifying that way even though theyre on T and stuff

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Not sure if that's more of a thing or not with transmascs. Seems to me like there'd be more stigma in identifying with feminity and/or womanhood as an amab because society prizes masculinity and sees it as the default and devalues and degrades feminity.

I've heard passing (especially straight) trans men say that they felt very unwelcome and excluded in irl queer communities. Maybe that's a factor, who knows.

I'm just throwing out ideas. Could be that there's no reason or a variety of reasons.

[-] Semivir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Ah so there is research suggesting the bias is real! Interesting, thanks for the link! Now I'm even more curious what could cause the difference.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

There are tons of transmasc people online, just not on reddit/Lemmy. Let's be real the core userbase of this website seems to be programmers (I am not one, but I've had multiple people at this point tell me they are in unrelated discussions). I'm sure y'all know the sexism that comes with being a girl in comp sci. If you're living as a girl during high school/college age, it's harder and honestly just uncomfortable to sit through male-dominated classes where half your classmates don't respect you just due to your gender.

[-] Semivir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's a good point. Lemmy userbase in general might be biased. Definitely feel bad for all the women genuinely interested in tech fields who have to put up with the sausage fest shenanigans.

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago

I will make an updated pie chart in a couple of days when there's more replies

[-] Semivir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

Probably should use something like StrawPoll for more dynamic results. Then again, if this is just for giggles it doesn't really matter and going by comments on a post is fine too.

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

That's a good point. I'll look into it. A lot of people gave convoluted answers in the comments so it was up to me to put them into a category.

[-] -Emma-@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

You could also make a new post that labels the available options (letter, number, emoji, symbol, or combination) and asks the commenter to begin their comment with the label associated with their gender identity.

[-] Semivir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

A lot of people gave convoluted answers in the comments

Hi, that's me! Sorry about that, didn't realise you were going to make a chart. 😅

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

It's okay, don't worry. It gave people a space to work through their thoughts and feelings about it and that's a good thing.

[-] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

Yes, Part of the majority for once /s

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

eli5: whats the difference between transfem and trans woman?

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

Transfem is an umbrella term for trans women and nonbinary people who identify more or less with the feminine. The term trans woman usually refers to someone who identifies along the gender binary.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

Where Transneutral?

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago

I don't know what transneutral is but I made a category for nonbinary that isn't transfem or transmasc

[-] jahtnamas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

tbf idk where mine ended up but i think it counts in the nonbinary umbrella

someone else mentioned transneutral, it could work as that too

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

What is transneutral

[-] jahtnamas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

when your transgender identity is neither feminine nor masculine, ergo "neutral"

[-] cowboycrustation@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that it fits under the general nonbinary umbrella for the sake of the graph.

[-] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe, instead of a pie chart, we could make a survey where you can enter your gender with a slider

Maybe let ppl pick a spectrum and make a diagram where submitted spectrums overlap

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

[-] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh yea, something like this

I imagnine something like a price range selector, but this could do it, too

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

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