You can like cars and also acknowledge that their over-use is detrimental to having a healthy and happy society. I would consider myself a car enthusiast, and I even work in the auto-industry but I can see the issues as well.

Additionally, even though I like cars I also like commuting by bike and have always felt bitter that I can't do it safely.

There are lots of reasons car enthusiasts want change too. We're allies more than you realize

Just because I am able to live without one currently. It does not mean that everyone is able. I am not saying fuck all cars, just that we need to get them off our planet pretty soon for the benefit of all people. So currently for me Fuck Cars is just Fuck all Cars that are useless and not needed! Some people need cars and probably don't like it too! For me personally this communtiy is to rant about cars and why they suck for us all. Giving ideas for better world without cars and showing people that love cars that there are good reasons to hate them too.

I understand what you see, seems bad for you but thats currently how the world is. A bit fucked up. But we all try to change it to a better place and I think that is great and why I love communities like this one (:

Because you can support the idea that cars are bad for society as a whole, and still live within a society that depends on cars. People may want to discuss the car that is the least harmful to civilization while still enabling them to get to and from work.

You can all discuss your points here but don't be pricks about it!

Yes I understand that this is a heated topic, but I wan't to remind all to be please stay civiliced and friendly! Think about what you are writing and that its not against people. Remember the rules of this instance. I just wan't to remind you all that we have the same goal in common.

When I was younger my brother became vegan and he was such a prick about it that he poisoned the discourse in our family for years. A couple of years later I tried to get the family on board with only eating meat 4 days a week to limit consumption for the environment but at that point my brother had killed any good faith engagement and moved out. I am fairly certain that him being vegan has led to more animals being killed because than if he just kept eating meat because he was just too toxic

OP is like my brother. Everyone should ignore him because he is probably twelve and a narcissist that doesn't know that you need to meet people where they are at. The sooner people like him gets ejected from the movement the less damage they will do.

Wait, this isn't a community for people who are sexually attracted to personal conveyance machines‽

You're generally going to be more effective at creating change if you work on it gradually rather than pretending you've already accomplished it.

This isn't r/fucksteamlocomotives, the reality is that in most places people still need a car. Focus on how to reduce that need, rather than putting your energy into attacking people who have it.

This is a problem with the Lemmy community at the moment. There are so few posts that people can happily consume the firehose, and they end up exposed to and butting into conversations where they're really not welcome a lot more often.

I like guns and tanks and planes for the same reason I like cars. But that doesn’t mean I want war. Just because I like cars doesn’t mean I want to drive everywhere.

These comments are horrible! Buncha assholes in this thread honestly, sorry OP. Its too bad people dunno how to make a point without calling you names or some rude shit. I'm thinking I'm blocking this community since mods seem OK with dat

Some people like to argue. I will admit that I have no issues with cars and come here for the entertainment. Some people make valid points that I can consider, some people live in lah lah land with batshit insane unrealistic expectations for western society. "We should make roads safer for those who have no car" is a fair and reasonable position. "The entire planet should abolish cars and every rural area ever should have public transportation so we can have a cyclist wet dream" is tone deaf lunacy.