This is sending a giant red flag to America's allies: we will not support you in times of war, do not rely on us since we will drop you whenever it is politically convenient to do so.
Sadly, this shouldn't be the case and it's indicating an abdication of responsibility in being the Arsenal of Democracy for the free world.
Except if our religious conservatives vouch for you. Then you get the platinum package and a blind eye.
Europe better start their own version of NATO.
They kinda do, EU has a mutual defence policy as well
That is nothing new, look at Afghanistan.
I feel Turkey going with the Chinese moonbase instead of the US “moonbase” will come up as a turning point in future history books. Trump hollowed out a great deal of the remaining good will to the US. Biden can’t turn the corner with the potential of trump returning. The US should get ready to be a regional power in 50 years, after people in europe and asia get tired of hosting their bases for no protection.
I really hope Europe can step up to fill America's gap, because it's clear that America will not get its shit together in time to help at this point, if it ever will again.
This has been so frustrating to watch. We have half of our country bootlicking the Russian leader that their cult leader is strangely endeared towards. This was our opportunity to really do the right thing and support a people defending themselves and their democracy. Something we as Americans could have been proud of for generations. But no. Republicans couldn’t have us do the right thing. Not even once.
Don't say half the country - most of the country doesn't vote. Trump got 74m votes and the US has a population of 330m.
You're right. Not voting is a vote for Trump, so much more than half.
Sounds like a good portion of the country is not represented and we need to do away with first past the post voting.
More people voting means more democratic votes, so what's the holdup blue states?
What if Republicans want to not vote for Trump, but are tied to him because if they don't vote for him the democrats win?
Not just FPTP voting...the electoral college has to go, tok. Many people think "my vote doesn't matter, my state is voting X anyway" and, in a way, they're right. The electoral college makes our votes matter less.
There's also too many people who are barred from voting. For example, one of the most politically-active people I know can't vote because he got a felony for possessing a half ounce of weed 15 years ago in college.
As conservatives cheer. Conservatives did this. Your conservative neighbors, co-workers, family members and acquaintances... They all did this.
That pov only has value inside of america. This is a two sided sword, conservatives acted against it, democrats didnt do enough, and from outside, america choosed to let ukraine rot.
Thinking retrospectively, It's a good thing that they stoped their counteroffensive last year and ended up distributing forces in the multiple fronts.
Then these conservatives should be the first to go fight ww3 with Russia.
I think a lot of people forget how before the war, but after the 2014 annexure, Ukraine begged to be able to buy western weapons, such as the javelin, because one random guy can take out a whole tank (great force multipliers against the russian bear). Great deterrent. But they were not approved because they fought giving arms for Ukraine would provoke and not deter, and that dialog and greater economic integration with Russia would be the solution.
So the west miscalculated, luckily Russia as well and Kiev did not fall, but now Ukraine is in a war, and unlike previously where they could have put resources into acquiring western weapons, they now have to input their resources into fighting and defending their country.
The EU and America have stepped up initially, like 90% of the pledges went straight back into the American economy, since the give Ukraine their old stock and manufacture replacement stock for themselves. EU is close to matching USAs total contributions and if you look at France and their economy's size they are percentage wise out spending the US in contributions.
The nice thing here is most support money gets spend in their own country, stimulating their economy, Ukraine is putting their own citizens and soldiers life on the line and it will weaken a common Nato foe. But not supporting Ukraine will emboldened Russia and now that most of their military ineptitude and corruption has been exposed and is being improved, Russia might calculate further expansion, since that is their modus operandi.
giving arms for Ukraine would provoke and not deter
This rationale is given time and time again for why we shouldn't have supported Ukraine and every time it's completely false.
Hopefully people can learn from this history and not make the same mistakes in the past.
Ukraine should've mined the shit out of their border with Russia.
Well at least the US was able to aid the genocide in Gaza. I’m sure none of this will backfire.
Maybe the real genocide was the friends we made along the way.
I don’t understand why Israel needs so much money. They’re not a poor country.
Thing is, even with the massive influx of weapons, Ukraine is going to face a severe risk of mutiny and exhaustion because they just don't have enough people to rotate through the front lines.
Even with the recent news of the expanded draft, the AFU just recently ended the service limit for conscripts and is still outnumbered by Russian troops on the front line.
Either Ukraine will have to extend the draft further, seriously hindering their economy, or another country will have to get involved directly. France was supposedly considering deploying troops to the Ukrainian-Belorussian border to free up troops to fight in the East, but that clearly isn't coming to fruition (yet?).
The opportunity for Ukraine to get any kind of decisive victory and a decent peace deal was within the first year of the war. Russia was always going to have time on their side.
I bet as people die, the amount of weapons needed to fight Russia increases. There will be a point of no return.
Nearly every country dragged its heels.
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