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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 84 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An embarrassing number of things get me way too worked up, but right at the top of the list is saying healthcare shouldn't be accessible to all. To say that by phrasing your response with an absolute obscene level of racism is a whole new level. But I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from the footsoldiers of fascism.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I live in the UK and because of my type 1 diabetes all my prescriptions are free.

It's madness to charge for something someone needs to live. Captive audience to the extreme.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are lucky. USA makes you pay for everything.

[–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago

I cant afford my medication anymore and now i just deal with the withdrawl and horrible pain. If i had just chosen to be a NEET instead of working at a coal mine this wouldnt have happened to me. Im tired.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

We charge about 8 quid per perscription. But you can buy monthly or yearly packages that make it cheaper if you get loads.

So my ones would cost around Β£50 a month if I had to pay.

Certain deseases, pregnancy, children, being on benefits and a few other things make them all free.

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

Asthmatic here that gets 3 inhalers every month. It could be Β£31.25 a month or Β£375 a year, or, because of the prepaid certificate, I pay for any and all prescriptions for Β£11 a month.

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[–] reazonozaer@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It shouldn't be surprising that a couple days after this they made this post.

[–] some_guy 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For anyone who isn't familiar, this is a play on the fourteen words. (ETA: white supremacist shit)

I checked and was mildly surprised to learn that it was real. I was expecting a propertarian to be subtler than that.

I should have seen it coming.

[–] Rom@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

idk why they always think "basic human needs should be free" somehow means "the people providing for these needs must be compelled to do it for free." Like even under our current system right now there are doctors who accept Medicare and Medicaid. Do they think these doctors don't get paid and just see these patients for free? Were they forced into it? Dumbest shit ever.

[–] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago

They don't think that's what it means. They know it means publicly funded. They just don't want to pay for it because they know the rich will be fitting the bill. Don't give them that much credit, they're not as dumb as they want you to think.

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I live in NH. It's fucked here. Split between rich arrogant snobs that act like they are down for equality but only make moves via Facebook profile overlays and Nazis, and conservatives that are just wrecklessly psychopaths.

It's hell for anyone that doesn't fit those two.

We have little Nazi fucks dropping banners on the highway and surrounding gay cafes and theathers calling people paedophiles.

NH is a shit hole of ignorance and nobody does anything at all about it. Both sides hate if anyone trys to point out the obvious they try to hide from.

Some trashy pro trump career criminal steals from my family and cops just laugh at me when I ask for help.

It's really fucking up my view of America as a whole...

And it's not just Nazis and dumb politics... I know too many career criminals that get ahead while good kids suffer for living with basic human decency.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it really that bad? I'm thinking of moving there from Ohio because gestures vaguely at middle america.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Compared to much of the US it is better, but it is the Florida of New England

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

What's the opposite of a mask off moment? Like, putting on groucho marx glasses over your klan hood.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Has anyone noticed the weird surge in pro-slavery sentiment? I’ve seen people, including black propel, defending slavery recently and it’s mind blowing! They claim that enslaved people learned work ethic and important life skills, that some slave owners treated the enslaved like family. These same arguments are being made about the concentration camps during the holocaust too!

[–] some_guy 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ron DeSuckMyDick in Florida signed off on legislation that changed the way slavery is talked about in Florida schools. That's where a lot of this seems to have started.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn’t DeFascist also make it a thing that teachers can/should show PragerU videos in class?

[–] Jumper775@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Free as in free beer vs free as in freedom. Two different words entirely.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

You can use libre to distinguish the latter meaning

[–] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do they not understand that by free we mean paid for by taxes?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That might be the point they are (terribly) trying to make: that taxing people (i) takes away their choice/freedom and (ii) forces taxpayers to fund the 'lifestyle' of others. It's the populist version of Hayek-Nozick.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

The government probably paid that farmer to grow that crop in the first place.

[–] doggle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If they're ideologically consistent then they'd argue that taxation is theft. And since they seem to think that slavery is wrong purely because the individual is being deprived of pay, then they'd probably say that taxation is morally equivalent to slavery as well.

They're wrong, but they'd probably say that.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I dont agree with communism but id say im pretty close to that(socialist prob) but this is such a bruh moment.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago (13 children)

What don’t you with about communism?

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[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So are you trying to say you’re a socdem or what?

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably not that into politics

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Was trying to ascertain how much they knew, if they can't even answer if they're a soc dem I'd have to send them to like second thought lol

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Second thought is very good

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

yes, especially for extremely new leftists

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What does that even mean, and also why did you feel the need to qualify it here?

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think everyone can and should hate libertarianism. You dont need to be communist for it.

[–] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Top tier answer lmao

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Uh... critical support. 🫑

Similarly to La RΓ©sistance, we shall unite against libertarianism on the basis of it being a far greater horror than any difference in ideology between us.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm from Denmark so my health care is paid through tax

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

To the wall.

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