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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

lemmygrad just lost two users.

[-] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Had clearance, on lemmygrad, still not traitor. Try harder.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I’ll refrain from responding in case I’m not on a watch list yet

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago

Wei and his handler agreed to hide their communications by deleting records of their conversations and using encrypted methods of communications, officials claim in the indictment

I guess we have no clue if they actually spying or not (based if they were), but I wanna take this time to reiterate: do not put anything incriminating online, if you were under suspicion from the state for doing something like spying e2e encryption is not going to stop them from finding out

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well just the same it's as likely that:

  1. His handler was a double-agent or US operative fishing them the whole time.
  2. He confessed to it after a slip-up or under suspicion after being questioned.
  3. They found out at some point, got malware sent to his phone, decypted the messages that way.
  4. Some combination of these.

While it certainly is possible that the US has compromised and/or is running top e2e encrypted messengers and I wouldn't use them myself for anything that's considered a serious threat to national security, it's also just as likely they may have for example used metadata inference via the big brother NSA global intercept program (which actually is a number of programs) to say "hey this US military IP address sure is sending regular messages to this IP address we've inferred (which itself is the real breach here in China's operations if true) to belong to Chinese intelligence via this encrypted messenger" at which point they don't have to know message content to know something is up, deploy the malware/and|or seize the device physically and there ya go.

US going around shitting and crying itself over Chinese "societal surveillance" that they fear will and has historically allowed them to shut down American spy networks in China do the same thing but globally and not just nationally and unlike China have no protections against misuse, share the data with between 1 (UK), 7, 14, or 21 countries (eyes agreements), and oh yeah practice rendition, torture, and assassination without trial.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I was honestly more thinking malware yeah. Regardless I think we’re in agreement, all I’m saying is that if the eye of sauron is on you nothing is going to stop them from finding evidence if you put it online

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Just a reminder that no matter how much you sell yourself out to try to fit in, if you are ethnically Chinese (or Russian, or whichever ethnic group the US currently is scapegoating) you will always be the Other and the first to be targeted. Doesn't matter if you get the passport, become a soldier or a cop, you will never be one of them.

Since they are going to get blamed for it and railroaded whether they did it or not, I hope they at least actually did get some information to China. I can't imagine they had all that much China didn't already know about though.

[-] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago

The boots they so fanatically lick will likely one day be the same boot that kicks their lifeless bodies into a ditch

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Hey, if you’re extremely lucky you may become a token for a bit like Candace Owens.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Or a lifetime of Uncle Tom like Sowell.

[-] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Have you ever watched "Midnight Mass" on Netflix? There's a Muslim sheriff in the small US town, and he talks about the same thing.

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[-] DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago
[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In USA even the curb polishers are called "troopers", that country just have overwhelming military fetish.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Mistake in writing the title, I was tired enough to not notice it

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago
[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago
[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure exactly what I meant, just typed from the heart. Not long until that next big dread horizon reaches us, I guess. Not long until my asian friends have to start concealed carrying

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

BTW, there’s a mess of lib comments on other instances you can’t see here on Lemmygrad because the parent was removed by our glorious admins

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Okay, how do liberals keep wandering in here? Did someone open a window or something?

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

They haven’t defederated us yet, so we still show up on their all page.

Some of them are doing it just to get banned by us, which I don’t really understand…

[-] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

They have a need to justify their warped worldview. They believe we're evil authoritarians, and they are taught to hate authority (unless it aligns with their wants), and so they will harass and argue with us in bad faith until they are inevitably banned, all so they can say "See? They silence those they disagree with!" They have a martyr complex and think harassing people online by talking out of their ass is like standing up to tyranny. It helps them deal with the dissonance of believing they're free and righteous while supporting the most warmongering regime in human history.

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[-] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

They seem to view getting banned with pride, like it's a rite of passage or something. So childish...

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