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submitted 7 months ago by lautan@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world

TikTok is taking the US government to court.

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Every negative thing about Tiktok is also true about Instagram and Twitter.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 23 points 7 months ago

TikTok is solely responsible for that AI voice. Instagram and Twitter have never done anything that compares to the pain and suffering that has caused to humanity.

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[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 65 points 7 months ago

TikTok blocks all access from Hong Kong. Can I sue them?

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 7 months ago

Not as a foreign national.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 24 points 7 months ago

And not as a Hong-Konger, if you don't want your family on a blacklist.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago

Read that as family in a basket. Close enough.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

Good. The ban is censorship dressed up as national security.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 73 points 7 months ago

TikTok is state sponsored spyware dressed up as fUnNy ViDeOs

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Shit I forgot the us government owns 50% of Facebook

[-] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 37 points 7 months ago

Access to the data it's what matters, ownership is just one method of access.

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 months ago
[-] UnpluggedFridge@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Requires a warrant or subpoena. That is the difference.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

They don't need to. Facebook plays ball.

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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I have a question for you. What is the difference between Google being banned in China and Tik Tok being banned in the US?

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago

So is Instagram

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Can I ban NSA from spying on me? I'm not even on fReEeDoOoOoM land, I should be entitled to some amount of privacy

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[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What would give them standing? They'd have to be an entity protected by the constitution to claim that protection was harmed. Is it this (Wikipedia)?

TikTok Ltd was incorporated in the Cayman Islands and is based in both Singapore and Los Angeles. source

I guess I've never thought about what makes an entity have rights here. Buckingham Palace couldn't just open shop here and start suing our government, right?

[-] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 41 points 7 months ago

The case is essentially "hey you kinda passed a bill that's against your own constitution? You're kinda supposed to follow that..."

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Does the US constitution apply for rights of businesses, or is it just people?

Not being snarky I actually don't know

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Corporations are people. Thanks to Citizens United. Though I'd gladly give up TikTok for the court to reverse this decision.

[-] FrostKing@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Important rights of businesses in the US constitution include

Important note regarding a business's right to regulate free speech: The rules of the Constitution are meant to regulate Congress, not businesses or citizens. Therefore, the right to free speech means Congress cannot restrict someone from speaking his or her mind, but a business may be able to.

For example, a radio show has the right to not allow a certain person to speak on its program or to say certain things. Ultimately, such issues are decided by the Supreme Court, and there may be some exceptions, depending on the circumstances.

[-] riplin@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago

The constitution applies to the government, not the American (or other) people. “Government shall pass no law…”

[-] yildolw@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

List of companies incorporated in the Cayman Islands: https://capedge.com/company/by/incState/E9/active/true?sort=latestQuote.marketCap

Mostly obscure to me, but I looked up GlobalFoundries. Originally divested from AMD, bought IBM's chip business, got a contract from US Department of Defense in 2023 for manufacturing military chips

I imagine you wouldn't object to GlobalFoundries suing the US government

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[-] pop@lemmy.ml 25 points 7 months ago

grabs popcorn

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

as expected, they literally said they would pusue legal options before pulling out of the us.

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[-] yuki2501@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

At this point, I'd like to ask: If a foreign company threatens democracy in a country, is it legal for the executive to ban business with that company?

No? Then that doesn't make sense. It's a FOREIGN company, the government should have the right to do whatever it needs to protect its citizens in that regard.

[-] UnpluggedFridge@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

This is the real question. Is there a loophole that allows foreign governments to freely exercise mass surveillance and psyops if they allow US citizens to post on a blackboard outside their offices?

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

When does a company care about the constitution? When it’s profits are threatened and the constitution suits their argument.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Down with vertical videos, down with short form content!

PS, China already bought all your personal data from Facebook.

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