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[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 1 year ago

To the lost democrats reading this, this also applies to you, not only to republicans. Both of you are liberals, only one of you is more honest with what they want to do with minorities.

[-] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

They've read you loud and clear lol

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Incidentally, this is an excellent explanation of the relationship between liberalism and fascism that everyone should read https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Not even liberals. What the US considers liberal would be considered very conservative, even in other Western countries.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Amerikan discourse has twisted the term "liberal" to mean "broad-minded" or "socially progressive", but liberalism (usually neoliberalism) is really just the economic ideology of capitalism. If they're economically conservative and live in a capitalist country, they're liberals

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Fair enough.

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Even if you don't personally want to harm minorities, your government does. It's built into the system. You make one vote every four years. Did that vote ever include anything that would make the lives of minorities any better? Did you ever vote on anything that made things worse? Did worse things happen without your vote? How? Why?

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

No shit.

Anyone who objectively looks at the Nazis and the US back to its founding until today will see many similarities… mostly because the Nazis just ripped off the US. The US had already completed (by the early 1900s) its expansion westward and genocide of the indigenous inhabitants along the way. Germany saw that and liked what it saw and copy pasted to the German eastern front. Their idea of “Lebensraum” was essentially the same as the (white) American dream of the open frontier. It required violent expansion supported by the government and the extermination of all the non-whites along the way. And obviously as far as Nazi laws go they just straight ripped Jim Crow laws written to discriminate against black Americans to the Nuremberg laws to discriminate against Jewish Germans.

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

The Nazis even thought the U.S.'s Jim Crow laws were too intense.

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Can you detail further what you mean? My understanding is similar to this article. They didn't think that the Jim crow laws went far enough, so they ultimately based their treatment of Jews more around the US treatment of natives (eventually also mirroring the US with an extermination attempt)

They weren't nearly as strict as the US on racial purity though, which might be what you're referring to? In the US, one drop of black blood would qualify you as legally black. In Germany you needed three Jewish grandparents to be classified as a jew. That's significantly more lenient than the US.

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I could, but you already did it for me. Even the Nazis thought the length the US went to classify "blood purity" was irrational.

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Cool, just making sure! Thanks for checking back in.

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