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submitted 11 months ago by trashhalo@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

Governor DeSantis's policies targeting the LGBTQ community, restricting academic freedom, and banning diversity programs have negatively impacted Florida's economy. Several organizations have canceled conventions and events in Orlando due to concerns over DeSantis's "anti-woke" agenda, resulting in an estimated $20 million loss in revenue for the state. Despite this, DeSantis's spokesperson dismissed the economic impact as a "media-driven stunt." However, boycotts in the past have caused enough economic pain to lead to policy changes, so organizations avoiding Florida are doing the right thing by not spending money there while these policies remain in place.

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[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 68 points 11 months ago

DeSantis is poison for Florida. He's so busy trying to prove how much he hates gays & non-whites that he doesn't take any time to govern. But I guess that's the standard GOP playbook these days.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One cool thing for me (as a current FL resident) is that my cost of living has gone up so much that it’s motivated me to move to WA. I’ve been kinda lingering around Central FL for several years, not really sure where to go because everywhere else would be more expensive by comparison. Now I’ve finally found that motivation! Thanks Meatball! My homeowners insurance has gone from $900 a year to $4200, and I needed to buy a new roof to get that insurance to the tune of $10k. The old roof was only 12 years old. Insurance companies won’t cover a damn thing if your roof is > 10 years old in FL now.

If I’m going to spend all this money on living expenses I may as well do that somewhere better.

[-] timicin@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If I’m going to spend all this money on living expenses I may as well do that somewhere better.

i did something similar between austin, texas and chicago, illinois. now my new place is 2x the size; w lots of amenities; costs less than texas; but most importantly, my new home isn't descending into a conservative fascist hell hole while everyone just sits around and watches it happen while simultaneously ignoring the clear reasons why and how to help it. lol

[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 11 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I've heard insurance is getting hard to come by in FL. Something that maybe a governor should go about trying to address, but he can't. No time, gotta get back out there and talk tough about slitting throats and repeating "woke" as many times per minute as possible.

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[-] sparkl_motion@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

Is there anywhere specific in WA that you’re looking?

I’m a native and happy to provide any information that might help in deciding where to land in the state.

There’s a huge variance in economic, social, and political views. Finding the right one for your needs will go a long way in assuring you’re happy.

Oh, weather too. The East half of the state is a highlands desert with forests in areas. Lots of high and low temperatures depending on the season. West side is VERY temperate but summers can be tough due to the way the Puget Sound and Olympics can cause heat domes where air doesn’t circulate well. That’s less common though.

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[-] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

You're gonna love Washington, it's a beautiful state!

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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 49 points 11 months ago

I paid $350 to avoid stopping through Florida on my upcoming trip.

[-] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 47 points 11 months ago
[-] Favor@beehaw.org 24 points 11 months ago

Oh they for sure care, just yesterday I was listening to a podcast and one of the ads was for Orlando. The theme of the ad? "Orlando is still great for gay people" They cited all kinds of statistics in an attempt to prove gay people should still visit and that it was a safe and fun place for them. They understand how critical those DINK tourists are, especially when you already have a lot of infrastructure and investment in attracting and serving them.

DeSantis doesn't care, but I promise you that lots of conservatives on the ground will start caring when their business traffic starts to choke off. Conservatives retire to Florida, but I'd imagine liberals make up at least half of the tourists between spring break, nightlife/LGBTQ hotspots, and how "woke" Disney has become.

Florida's current economic landscape is only possible due to tourism money, and once that reality becomes clear people are suddenly going to become far less concerned with non economic issues. Even the promise of tax cuts won't work when entire industries see their revenues drop by meaningful %'s.

I'm from Kansas, I know what it looks like and feels like to live in a conservative economic death spiral. The reality is you have to let it start getting worse before people take it seriously and put a stop to it. Even the conservatives here voted out Brownback after he started gutting every maintenance, service, and school budget in a failed attempt to balance his tax cuts. All those people who treat politics as a game get real serious once it hurts them directly, but until then I'm not sure there's an effective way to reach them.

[-] Khotetsu@lib.lgbt 17 points 11 months ago

And it's not just the tourism industry that's suffering, but construction and anything that requires freight shipping as well are already feeling the effects. There's been videos for the past several months of completely empty job sites with half finished houses and condos because DeSantis has made it a crime to drive undocumented workers, who make up almost the entirety of the construction workforce. A vast number of freight truck drivers also said that they won't deliver to Florida for similar reasons, though I don't remember exactly what law caused them to refuse to go into the state.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago

So regarding going broke, this was a result of.. checks clipboard going woke, right?

[-] marx2k@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

So here's the thing. Yes, dude is terrible for Florida. But voters love the guy, so really it's everyone getting what they deserve?

[-] teft@startrek.website 27 points 11 months ago

I don’t understand how people who profess to love powerful, intelligent alpha men have fallen for a 5’ 6” heel wearing manlette that speaks like Kermit and a grown man that wears makeup and speaks like he had a stroke. Make it make sense.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago

Intelligent is where it goes wrong. They only claim to like intelligence, because that sounds good to claim. They're actually extremely anti-intellectual in basically every way you can be. Real jocks vs nerds stuff, for people who never outgrew a HS mentality.

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[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 16 points 11 months ago

Intelligence to a dumbass is someone agreeing with what they already think, not actual intelligence

[-] AresUII@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Texas Education Agency furiously scribbling "DESANTIS WOKE" into textbooks

[-] lemillionsocks@beehaw.org 36 points 11 months ago

At the end of the day Florida is guaranteed 2 seats in the senate and due to their size it will be a long while before momentum moves to the point where their house numbers are low.

Republicans want this. They want people of opposing political beliefs to leave their state en mass. Lets not forget that up until recent conservative craziness florida was known as being the most infamous swingstate.

I dont blame people for leaving from an area where their kids will be more poorly educated, where local infrastructure is decentralized highway centric HOA built community hell, and where they may be actively persecuted. It's what the republicans want though.

[-] acastcandream@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 35 points 11 months ago

As an Aussie, I'd never go there..I don't want to get shot and then someone claim they were standing their ground or whatever. As I have no problem with foreigners, lgbt people and I hate guns, why would I go?

As far as we know, it feels like I'd be stepping into kkk/nazi territory. I can go Europe instead where people are super chill

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago
[-] UnfortunateTwist@beehaw.org 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Might I add that this month CDC issued a letter that leprosy may be endemic to Florida now.

And back in June there were cases of locally acquired Malaria. FYI, U.S. malaria cases are typically acquired from international travel.

I don't have much hope with respect to Florida's Public Health, with DeSantis appointing the state surgeon general Joseph Ladapo who has cherry picked science research to push an agenda, wholly ignoring what the research actually concluded.

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 26 points 11 months ago

Their woke agenda and woke books, and woke teachers and woke doctors and woke postmen and woke Santa Claus and woke... FFS stfu you fascist pig

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 14 points 11 months ago

Yo, listen up, here's the story About a little guy that lives in a woke world And all day and all night and everything he sees is just woke Like him, inside and outside Woke his house with a woke little window And a woke Corvette and everything is woke for him And himself and everybody around 'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen (To listen, to listen, to listen)

[-] NecessaryWeevil@feddit.nl 13 points 11 months ago

Earlier today, I heard someone refer to the Star Wars sequel trilogy as "woke." I'm still scratching my head.

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago

Of course. There were women jedi, that's not right.

[-] mnrockclimber 26 points 11 months ago

I skipped the Agile2023 conference last month because they chose Florida for some reason.

[-] Puppy@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

DeSantis will forever be remembered as "that woke guy from Florida" lmao

He kinda attached himself to that word now. At least, that's the only thing I remember form his campaign; "WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE"

[-] TheTimeKnife@beehaw.org 20 points 11 months ago

Obvious consequence of alienating half the country.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 months ago

And what the hell does woke mean anyway?

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fortunately for everyone, they had to define "woke" during a court case.

DeSantis' general counsel, Ryan Newman, responded that the term means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

So there we have it. Recognizing the flaws in the justice system is woke.

[-] circularfish@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago

If they actually have that level of self-awareness, which I doubt they all do, then we should just reclaim the term. As in, “Yeah, I’m woke. Fuck you”.

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[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

It means that you're aware of the social and racial issues that exist in America and the world. So to be anti-woke means to be willingly ignorant.

[-] effingnerd@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago

Everytime I see or hear "woke" I mentally replace it with compassion/ate to get a true gauge of what the speaker really feels.

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[-] synae 16 points 11 months ago

Yea I'm not traveling to or spending any money in any of these fascist states if I can help it

[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't go to Texas either. Fuck that noise.

[-] Jearom@beehaw.org 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My family wants to do our first-ever Disney trip, but we’re boycotting Florida for the foreseeable future, and it’s 100% on their government. We look *at a trip to FL like vacationing in Berlin circa 1933 right now.

[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 months ago

Go to Disneyland in Cali instead. It's great.

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[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

Go fasch, no cash

[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

I had planned a WDW vacation before COVID scuttled those plans. Now that it's safe to travel again, I have no plans to visit Florida for any reason whatsoever for the foreseeable future. Still taking the family on that vacation; we're just doing it in California instead.

[-] SolNine@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

I grew up here, have family here and have built a life here. It really is awful how much the state is being destroyed, so much has changed since 2016, it is unreal.

The propaganda has been incredibly effective here, and it is absolutely disheartening.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 11 months ago

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Click here to see the summaryHis anti-“woke” message is prompting organizations and corporations to cancel conventions and other events that are an essential part of Florida’s vital hospitality economy.

The NAACP issued a travel advisory in May warning that the Sunshine State has come to be seen as “openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color and LGBTQ+ individuals” under DeSantis.

Its statement was followed by similar warnings from the League of United Latin American Citizens and Equality Florida, a gay rights advocacy group, advising about extreme policies that travelers from some communities might view as hostile.

Tony Pals, spokesperson for the group, in an email to CNN, explained that the organization would not hold a conference or event in a state such as Florida that has enacted anti-trans laws.

As CNN reported Sunday, Stacy Ritter, president and CEO of the Visit Lauderdale tourism marketing agency, noted that 10 events and conventions were canceled by organizations “citing recently enacted laws, policies and travel advisories.”

The consequences for North Carolina meant millions in estimated lost revenue, especially after the 2017 NBA All-Star Game and NCAA championships were moved from the state.

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