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[–] jimbo@aussie.zone 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't use cash often, but it would be a shame to see it go completely. Privacy concerns aside - It does come in handy for in-person marketplace type transactions to avoid the payid scams that are running rife at the moment.

[–] Mistique@aussie.zone 15 points 2 years ago

It also doesn't rely on having an internet connection which can be useful

[–] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've actually gone back to using cash when most merchants are Charing a 1.5% card fee. Fuck that shit.

[–] tfyoung@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah same. I'd be really interested to know what the cost of cash is, my guess is more than 1.5% with the extra effort needing to be put into banking, slower transactions, mistakes and fake notes. Seems like most businesses are just assuming laziness of their customers just wanting to tap.

[–] Leyana@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a tax dodge. You can skim off the top easier with cash.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, that and the fact that every credit card transaction includes a transaction fee that the business ends up paying. When they add 1.5% (I've usually seen 2.5%) they're just moving the expense from being hidden inside the list price of the things you're buying to being added at the register.

Think of it like a "bank tax” in addition to sales tax. Business could easily include tax in the price, but they don't because customers are used to seeing the lower price and having tax added at the register.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right, but as @tfyoung said above, there are costs to the business associated with cash as well. Probably much higher, if a little harder to precisely calculate.

The time and expense associated with handling, counting, and physically banking cash is not insignificant.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

It's that harder to calculate part that makes some business favor cash. After all, the humans running the business are not perfect economic machines. Some people are going to favor a nebulous expense (that they honestly probably didn't consider at all) over a clear and obvious expense.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I often opt-out of stores that add a bonus fee when the transaction is high enough that it should be their operating cost, but pretty much 100% of utility bills have are tacking their fees onto the next bill.

It seems like a very anti-consumer practice that is going to become ubiquitous.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@aussie.zone 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hate where this is going, but accept that it is inevitable. As much as I value my privacy, I've well and truly fallen into the trap of using tap and pay with my phone. I don't think I've carried cash in any meaningful quantity for years now.

[–] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

im in the same boat. it is so much easier.

Maybe it could be nationalised though, in the same way that currency is nationalised. That way the costs of managing it could be part of our way of life, not by a specific bank, or that datra being sold to various thrid parties.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago

That's not a bad idea. At the very least, let's take it back out of the hands of big tech. They can't be trusted.

[–] jaidyn999@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its not the article is more garbage from the ABC.

The amount of cash in the economy is higher than ever before.

[–] repomonkey@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The central issue is control. I'm happy to use EFTPOS but would definitely not want to see cash disappear as it's not something governments can easily track and/or move.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I stopped using cash nearly a decade ago and it feels extremely antiquated, but the future of money is scary to think about.

[–] withersailor@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some places are no longer accepting cash.

[–] cuppaconcrete@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still a few hairdressers and restaurants in my area that only take cash tho

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

For whatever they save avoiding tax etc, they also lose business from people who don't want to carry cash, go to atm & have change left.

[–] techno_analyst@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Every month or two I make the trek to the local bank to get some $1 coins for the laundry in our apartment complex.

Aside from that, I use Apple Pay for nearly all in-person transactions, PayID for sending money to friends and family, and my credit card online.

I'm approaching 30 and haven't actively carried cash in over a decade.

[–] RandomRotator@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Attended a “gold coin donation” event at a local school recently and it was a struggle to find actual coins! I dig some up from the couch cushions, but then they had a card reader at the door anyway, so I needn’t have bothered.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

My local laundromat has replaced their machine payments with paypass.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Can't they track via cash serial numbers yet?

Lame...

[–] deadcat@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I very rarely use cash at this point. I'm not really surprised.

[–] TiredSpider@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really wish there was a properly private digital currency that wasn't crypto. I hate using physical money ever since covid hit, it's just so dirty.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

just spit on your money to make it your germs

[–] k_h@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

The point of the article is that cash has fees and costs per transaction and per day that are getting larger as cash is used less. We as customers just don't see them. Transport, security, transactions all cost businesses and in places where cash is not much used, and for instance country towns, those costs can be prohibitive for merchants. Those card fees are right now probably less than cash costs.

[–] landsharkkidd@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't know... my dad will find a way to give me cash instead putting it into my account.

I say that as if I'm like 15. No, I saw him on the weekend and he gave me birthday money, and the place we went to accepted card for the most part, I asked him "can I give this back to you and you can send me money" and he's like "nahh don't worry". Had to go to my local bank to deposit it.

[–] LovelyLittleSausage@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FYI you can now deposit cash at the post office. You need to supply a bank card to identify the account, but there's no fees involved.

[–] landsharkkidd@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I noticed that last night when my sister picked up a birthday present. That's pretty cool tbh.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I still open every card with cash falling out.

[–] bastardsheep@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

That's about the only thing I use cash for these days myself. Birthday money. The money I tend to receive sits in my wallet until it's time for someone else's birthday. Then it goes in their cards.

I should mark it or something to see if I then get it back next birthday. :P

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I'm split about digital currency.

[–] Knoll0114@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm thinking of moving entirely to cash even though I'm more likely to lose it than my card. Sick of everyone getting rich off the data I provide.