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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

It's actually not a bug, but obvious behavior.

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[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

TL;DR for anybody worried. systemd-tmpfiles --purge was too broad in scope (and has a confusing name) so now you must be more specific when using it to avoid accidentally deleting things.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

But you should have read the docs completely and figured that out /s

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

using systemd instead of rm -Rf is not the Unix way!

[-] lengau@midwest.social 24 points 1 month ago
[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago
[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago
[-] ogeist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 17 points 1 month ago
[-] drwho@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

I've been saying, Microsoft hired Poettering to thank him for fucking up Linux so much with systemd.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks Microsoft for spotting that, and thanks to Google and CloudFlare for blocking or redirecting Polifyll.io network traffic.

Credit where credit is due.

[-] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago
[-] Templa@beehaw.org 11 points 1 month ago

If it was intended but not properly documented as it says, why does it keep being called a bug?

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The bug is the lack of documentation and that a simple unguarded command can erase all user's data on the system.

Also, the principle of least surprise would like a word.

If I look at the command line arguments of a program called "systemd-tmpfiles" and one of them is called "purge" I will generally assume that option will purge temporary files.

Now it turns out that someone decided that this program would be a simple way to do something with /home directories(*) so they included /home in the config file for the program, the file that the program reads by default when it is invoked.

Who decided it would be a good idea for it to deal with /home?

Wellllll...

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

(*)I have no idea what this program is doing with /home in its config file. I will presume that there is a useful and mostly logical reason for it, and that this command line option was just an unfortunate footgun for those users who were not intimately familiar with systemd.

[-] NekkoDroid@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

There were talks a few years ago about changing sd-tmpfiles name but it was decide not worth it due to the churn and bikeshedding it would cause.

sd-tmpfiles is generally used to create, modify (e.g. permissions) and remove directories on the system. The home.conf is intended for systems that only ship /usr/ (e.g. containers) to create /home/ and /srv/ as a separate subvolume on btrfs

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I will presume that there is a useful and mostly logical reason for it

Home directories are temporary, obviously

[-] Bitrot 3 points 1 month ago

“Breaking userspace” is often considered a bug even if the code doing so is working as intended. Deleting user data because they bundle a config file deep in the directory tree for a completely different use case was not intended behavior even if one of them is defensive about the logic.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

it was clearly a feature

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Oh that’s a good normal thing for it to do.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 1 month ago

So it doesn't break userspace anymore?

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