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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 181 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Jesus. Republicans will tax anything and anyone except rich people and rich people accessories.

Technically, we already do pay more in taxes because we don't get to claim dependents or receive any child tax credits.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

If those temporarily embarrassed millionaires could read, they'd be really upset

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lol, on theme and true. Well done.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago
[-] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Deleted no longer relevant

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

lemmy.world had a momentary glitch it looked like. It is showing now I think

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah was getting a cloudflare error for 2-3 minutes. Seems good now.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

They really want that "trickle down" to work. Remember, Putin is still holding Trump's piss tapes. They're all absolutely fascinated by pissing on people.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah I always hear about all these people and what they're going to do with their tax returns. Mine is always a tax bill ever since Trump

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 102 points 3 months ago

Reading the article he also said that parents should be able to cast votes on behalf of their minor children, which is much more alarming to me.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago

Let me guess, conservatives have larger families than liberals and progressives?

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago

Educated families have fewer children, I'll let you connect the rest of the dot.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago

LGBTQ+ people have a higher rate of living singly or in a relationship without children. No doubt also a tendency to vote Democrat. Conservative, anti-abortion Christians have some of the largest families, so get more votes. It's pretty clear what he's up to.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

These days, look for any family in America with 5 or more minor children and find a "devout Christian" as the patriarch.

Mormons are famous for this, and they support their breeder mentality by tapping into the same government resources they say they despise, sometimes venturing into fraud.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

I know a few that can field a full baseball team. I have no idea how they go anywhere together as a full family.

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[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

BRB, going to go adopt a couple dozen kids.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

And frozen eggs are children, right?

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Conservatives hate this one trick

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago
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[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Because people who use the least civic resources should pay the most?

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Tbf children are a super valuable thing to a country.

It's why governments freak when birth rates get low.

The machine needs bodies to function after all.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 months ago

They'll go so far as to do anything except any of the things that make happy, productive people more likely to feel inclined or comfortable having children.

Parental leave so people can be there when their child is born? Affordable or accessible daycare? A world that accommodates any workplace flexibility? Basic affordable healthcare? A world with some degree of optimism for the state they're bringing their children into?

Nah, a once a year tax rebate covering a month or two of daycare should be more than enough.

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Punishing people with higher taxes for not making a decision because they feel like it's already too hard and expensive to make that decision in an effort to fix that problem is surely going to help!

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[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Sure, but incentivizing having kids is different than screwing over the people who don't.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

It's also why the abortion and birth control issues are front and center for the GOP, they know that they aren't going to convince any new voters to join so they need to rely on their constituents giving birth to and raising the new generation of conservative voters.

Catholic church did the same thing for the same reason.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 months ago

This is literally already the case. Parents get tax deductions.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 17 points 3 months ago

He's calling for a world where people are more or less coerced into having children by punitive taxes if they don't have any.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Considering that parents get a Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per child I think?) and I pay property taxes to fund public schools (I don't mind) I'd say I'm already being taxed in order to subsidize other people's children

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

I have no problem paying to subsidize children (regardless of who their parents are, children aren't property), because I care about the future of this country and those children will run this country one day. I just don't want the law written to punish me for not having kids, especially not when they're talking about taking my voting rights away over it.

Give parents a bigger tax credit. Increase taxes for schools. Throw as much money at the children as you want, I won't complain, I'll keep paying my share and will celebrate a society that actually prioritizes outcomes for all children, instead of just children of wealthy parents.

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Government so small it can only oppress the poor and middle class.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

What in the fuck is with this guy? He's got some kink towards punishing people without kids, or what?

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 months ago

It's self-hate for being a closeted sofasexual.

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[-] Bender12@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

My question, what about thise that have had miscarriages, stillborn, children that have died before 18? Since according to them,, life begins at conception, do they not count? Or only children that can contribute to the labor force or military service count?

And what an ass he is.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nobody counts but him and his lifestyle, apparently. If you're not doing what he's doing, go fuck yourself.

I honestly just think he realized too late that he got suckered into a lifestyle he just fucking hates, so his jealousy turns to people living the life he wants, so he's out to make them as miserable as he is.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

This is a very real sentiment in conservative circles who believe that people exist to reproduce.

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[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Ah. The new class war. Parents vs the childless. What bullshit

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So I just have to impregnate a bunch of women and I get to live for free right? What's the America that JD Vance wants?

They have completely flipped around. They are now the welfare Queens. They are the triggered snowflakes. They are the one's calling for defunding law enforcement.

It's almost like they stand for absolutely nothing

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

God damn lol.

Trump never had this douche-canoe vetted, and it shows with horrible clip after horrible clip just pouring out.

I feel for the Harris campaign staffers who have to listen to hours apon hours of his podcast horror shows, but they are doing the lords work. This stuff is campaign gold.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Or he did. It the people vetting him (including Trump) like is entirely unamerican ideas.

What’s hilarious we already pay more in taxes anyway. (We get substantially fewer deductions, for example.)

I say unamerican because he wants to give parents more voting power with more kids

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[-] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Didn't Fascist Italy do this at some point in time?

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I used to love reading about the magnificently bad sociological choices that dictators make while in power to support their ideals.

I can see Mussolini's mentality: "We need more Italians, that happens from birth. People who don't birth children are contrary to this goal and are a detriment to the country and therefore worthy as a target for social correction.

*Some time after implementing changes*

Mussolini: Why are all the single people committing suicide?

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The only kind of ideas he's known for.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Oh Flipper Vance… why are you the way that you are?

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[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

How about since he views parents as having more of a stake in americas future, they can pay extra taxes. Why the fuck would anybody pay more taxes for less representation, not that we have much anyway for what we already do pay.

[-] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

You already pay more taxes if you don't have children... (child tax credits, dependents in household, etc)

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