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A woman has lost a court of appeal challenge over her name being removed from a child’s birth certificate after her ex-wife admitted she secretly had sex with their sperm donor.

The “unprecedented” and “unusual” case centred on the question of who were the legal parents of a girl, now aged six.

The child, referred to as X, was born amid an “informal conception arrangement” between two women and a man they met through an online advert, judges were told.

The couple, referred to as P and Q, met the man, F, for the first time in a pub in late 2016, hoping to find a sperm donor to impregnate P.

The women “formed a favourable impression of him” and the three of them then signed a sperm donor agreement, agreeing to use artificial insemination.

When two artificial attempts failed, the court heard how P contacted F for support and the pair had sex. P had been “very upset and depressed” about the lack of success and arranged to meet him at her parents’ house while they were abroad. She found him “friendly and sympathetic” and initiated the intercourse, a court was told.

P and F had sex three times at her parents’ house, unknown to Q, with the third time coinciding with a third artificial insemination attempt. Judges said it was “impossible to know which method of insemination led to [the child’s] conception”.

P and Q later divorced and, amid disagreement over the care of the child, P revealed the truth about her encounter with their donor, and secured a court declaration earlier this year that F was the child’s legal parent.

In her ruling in April, Mrs Justice Knowles said the case was “a cautionary tale about the consequences for a child and for a same-sex couple of both deceit as to how that child came to be conceived and the unreliability of informal arrangements for artificial insemination”. She added: “The fallout from this couple’s separation has been devastating for each of them and for their named sperm donor.”

She concluded that, on the balance of probabilities, while Q had not consented to sex between P and F, the method of the child’s conception was “unclear”.

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 50 points 1 month ago

This is sad. The method of insemination shouldn't matter here. Q has been that child's mother for 6 years. She's the mum.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 34 points 1 month ago

For anyone interested I do recommend clicking through to the article, because the posted text here is only about half the article. However, the final paragraph is a positive one.

[The judge] said that after a separate welfare hearing a judge had given all three adults parental responsibility for the child.

[-] tgm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I couldn't agree more

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Ya P sounds like an asshole for doing that, is there even any proof other than her saying that's what happened? Text messages arranging the meeting? Anything? Otherwise I don't see how something can be changed without proof.

It's all based on archaic parentage laws where it's determined by genetics, not effort, care and intent. Likely won't change anytime soon because of all the anti-lgbtq+ people in power not wanting to change a law that favours "traditional" family structures and makes it extremely difficult for any other pairing of people to raise a child without fear of something like this happening.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

is there even any proof other than her saying that’s what happened

None that we've seen in the article, but that doesn't mean the case didn't address it. I strongly suspect either there was never any reason to contest that issue, or it was debated and the court found that yes, it did happen as P described.

[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago

That cautionary tale is extremely specific. But I will be sure to not cheat on my partner with my sperm donor while getting artificially inseminated.

[-] cornshark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Now you know! And knowing is half the battle!

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
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