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[-] BlorpTheHagraven@startrek.website 92 points 3 months ago

It's funny because we'd actually be giving ourselves the handout because we actually pay taxes.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago

But Rich people and corporations have more money, so that means they're paying more taxes? Right? Right? No don't look at their returns, just trust them.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 83 points 3 months ago

Easy: the latter has a lobby, the former doesn't.
Next question

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

Why is the general public so vulnerable to disinformation when it's so easy to look things up?

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago

Why look something up when you already know the answer? So long as you make the average person confident enough in their own ability to discern the truth - which isn't hard, given most people's desire to feel smart - you can get them to accept an enormous amount of misinformation at face value.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

I think you're right, just a small point because you seem to be conflating misinformation and disinformation. It doesn't matter here because your answer works for both, but they are not the same thing:

Disinformation: the person spreading it knows it's not true, is spread for a specific purpose

Misinformation: the person spreading it thinks it's true, is spread because people honestly believe it

Disinformation becomes misinformation as it spreads if successful, as the people hearing it believe it and repeat it.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Oh, good to know! I hadn't made that distinction in my mind, but it makes perfect sense. Thanks for setting me straight!

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Mainly because people in general aren't into looking things up, and in the modern era of the Web of Lies it's not always obvious to everyone what is factual information.

Humans are NOT inherently rational creatures, we have to LEARN and PRACTICE how to be rational and curb our instincts in order for it to be effective. This takes discipline and self-examination.

FEW people live a self-examined life, vanishingly few.

Most people are rather content to go on believing what they've always believed and what their families raise them to believe, and are very unpleasant when what they believe is exposed as bullshit.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

We’re meant to live in groups of like 50 or something, and trusting elders made sense because their survival was tied to the survival of everyone in the group.

Now we’re in groups of millions and still believing what people of authority have to say because “why would they lead us astray? Surely their survival depends on our ability to thrive, too? Right? Guys?”

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

$7.25/hr, kids, 2-3 jobs, no healthcare, FB reshares are convincing

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago

Easy: the latter has a ~~lobby~~ bought and captured government, the former doesn’t. Next question

It's kind of the same thing, but not entirely.

[-] BurnedDonut@ani.social 50 points 3 months ago

Because students don't pay lobbies to bribe politician. I thought this is a well known fact about the politics.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 42 points 3 months ago

Because one is stimulating the economy and the other one is just more money in the pocket of the billionaires.

[-] killabeezio@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

Had me in the first half

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Because the Republican Party is still sucking Reagan’s dick. The thought process is if we eliminate all taxes for businesses they will be so grateful they will pay workers more and reduce prices which in turn will stimulate the economy because Americans will spend more because everything is so cheap.

Your average American is so gullible they still believe this bullshit to this day.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

I think it all boils down to elasticity - conservatives seem unaware that it even exists. So they think that every dollar a business pays in taxes/wages will go towards higher prices, and every dollar of UBI will go towards higher rents. When leftists say "profit", conservatives hear "revenue".

And when you try to educate them about it, they pivot to an argument against basic econ 101.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

The PPP program forgave more than 700 billion in loans. But the $50k I took to become a fucking teacher, well by George I better pay up.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The PPP program tried to hand me a forgivable "loan" of $250,000 for a company that had only ever had a total of 4 employees, that I had shut down 2 years previously. I seriously considered taking the money.....

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago

Really the problem is that everyone wonders how to pay for a stimulus to poor people, and worry about it causing inflation.

But stimulus to rich people "pays for itself."

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The exact opposite of the truth

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

They consider money inherently theirs and not yours. Entitlement.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I was told that "entitlement spending" was Social Security and Medicare.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Because of class warfare, plain and simple.

According to the owner class a single mother getting food stamps is a drain on the economy whereas corporate welfare is considered 'a sound investment in our nation's future.

[-] Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 months ago

fuck the right, these are my thoughts

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Two words: trickle down economy.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago
[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

1 word: Ronald Reagan pissed all over our economy and we have done nothing to reverse it

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

Ah, a fellow German speaker, I see.

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[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Because the tax cut for the rich will trickle down nods fervently

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Always irked me, the term “trickle down”. It implies the masses are only deserving of whatever slips through from the ceiling above…

“Look, kids! This slow drip from the ceiling under this lake has created a small puddle. In thousands of years from now, this puddle will be much larger. Possibly a pond! Imagine that, a pond!”

“But you said there’s a lake above us?”

“That’s a private lake. Trespassers will be shot.”

[-] fluckx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Survivors will be shot again

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

"I'd like to give them some fucking stimulus."

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're talking about changing real people's lives. Giving entire generations back the wealth stolen from them.

Sorry can't help you. We need to focus on the "economy." Whats that you say, the economy is held up by college educated working class people? No, no, wrong economy. We need to help the "economy" cough wealthy bankers cough because they ~~give me~~.. ~~have~~.. ~~control~~.. uhh distribute? all the money.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Whenever you hear that "the economy" is doing good/bad, "the economy" just means rich people's yacht money.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It is a stimulus. It stimulates the trickle-down part of "trickle-down economics."

You should feel it hit your forehead any minute now... keep your mouth closed.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Because the people aren't unified and setting enough billionaire properties on fire.

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