This is no honeymoon, the American "left" will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary "competent American fascism" software update leftists have been prophesying.

They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement

There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters

There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas

The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was "Biden's project"

Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

I'm leaning towards, "its gonna be a close race."

I'm also interested to see what happens if Trump loses. Will the "Trump for Emperor" people give up on voting for Repubs for a few Presidential cycles and the depressed turnout means Dems start taking seats down ballot and turning some Red States into Purple States? Will Trump decide to stop running for President or will he keep running until the Republican party finds a way to keep him out of their Primary and Trump running as an Independent (for that sweet sweet campaign grift money)? Will Dem voters immediately go to sleep if Kamala wins and forget to vote down ballot in the mid terms, keeping the weak Democratic Executive going? When the Republicans run a non-Trump candidate for president, will Dem voters fail to turn out to the polls, returning is to the "normal" of a Dem Pres to Repub Pres to a Dem Pres ... cycle?

My Magic 8 ball has been very unhelpful in answering these questions.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What happens when there's no more Trump to hold the Popular Front Against cheeto-man together? Won't the thing just start to collapse under the weight of its own contradictions, as the Democrats now lack a bonapartist figure like Trump to unite them through negative partisanship?

On the other hand, maybe they'll just get away scamming subsequent generations by inventing a new cheeto-man to rally against. Would that stick given the conditions. The base of the party won't be the same MSNBC TV addicts who live comfortably enough to indulge such a narrative without thinking.

[–] chauncey@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Walz was the least worst option. Take a positive comrade.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Much has been made of the “vibe shift” without any change in platform. The DNC and acquiescent Liberal media is going to retcon 2020-2024 into Trumps Second term, with the kind of “hopey changey stuff” (like Obama and Clinton ‘92) tacked onto Harris Walz.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

It's still a coin toss between a Trump victory or a Harris victory imo. The most convincing argument I've seen for a Trump victory is that the US economy will hit a major recession in 2024-2028 and the national security state would rather have it be under Trump, which will pave the way for Gruesome Newsome in 2028 since voters will blame the poor economy on the GOP. He's the real competent fascist. I don't think it's a coincidence that Newsome met with Xi or how, like Harris, he represents the interests of tech giants.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

this was my read too. he's the perfect tool of the system to drown out the petty whining of the anti-genocide, anti-climate apocalypse left. all the vote shit online is a distraction, they don't want or need our participation, they just want us to shut up.

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