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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's just basic economics. The amount of power and influence you can generate with a disinformation troll farm dramatically outweighs the cost. It's a high impact, low cost form of geopolitical influence. And it works incredibly well.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It's like saying that bullets and knives being more convenient than bricks for killing people are basic economics.

Doesn't explain why those brownshirt types have guns and knives and kill people on the streets, while you don't have those, and the police doesn't shoot them, and more than that, they'd arrest you were you to do something to brownshirts.

What I wanted to take from this bad analogy is that the systems are designed for troll farms to work, and not vice versa. Social media are an instrument to impose governments' will upon population. There are things almost all governments converge on, so the upsides of such existing outweigh the downsides.

Our world is dangerous.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah…. That shit is going on right here on lemmy. Some of them have even allowed to be come so popular, we know them by name.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 14 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Ozma, yogthos, tokenboomer, alcoholicorn... am I forgetting anyone?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is .ee one of the ones with bad rep? I picked it randomly.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

It's not as bad as ml who actively filter content they don't like.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Starts with “L,” ends with “bann.”

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Knew I was letting someone out. How non-inclusive of me lol

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

UniversalMonk potentially

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Honesrly: tokenboomer likely is all those accounts as well.

You will notice that anytime you respond to boomer with disagreement, multiple accounts will begin flooding you, and they all brave in and out of the conversations as if they are the ones who said things said by others.

You wouldn't expect a paid professional to be so sloppy, but on the other hand, if he was good at his job, he wouldn't be working for Hamas.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think Lemmy is so tiny that those named below truly are just utter idiots doing that work for free.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Someone always has to be king shit of whatever hill they're on.

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

I don't rule it out. The prior era of "reddit alternatives" in the Voat era was quickly overrun too even though they were very small. The key to the internet has always been first mover advantage. If they have enough power to manipulate the top sites, it would take very little to hedge bets on budding platforms. They risk losing their advantage if a replacement platform establishes itself without them. That's pretty much the whole history of modern tech. To actively seek and snuff out your competitors.

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm Soviet Russia, don't fix broke you!

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

And continues to do so. You've grown since 2013

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The imperial core is so fragile and indoctrinated that troll farms are an existential threat.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee -5 points 8 months ago

They NEED shit like that to exist. Bullshit needs more bullshit to survive. This is why despite murdering countless people and endless campaigns funded by billions of dollars there are still leftist movements that won't die.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'd love to debate politics with you but first tell me how many r's are in the word strawberry. (AI models are starting to get that answer correct now though)

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I tried this with Gemini. Regardless of the number of rs in a word (zero to 3), it said two.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So ask it about a made up or misspelled word - "how many r's in the word strauburrry" or ask it something with no answer like "what word did I just type?". Anything other than, "you haven't typed anything yet" is wrong.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

But it's a phrase you typed, the very one that contains the question, unless you ask by voice or in a picture

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

People complain about Russian troll factories, but hey, they are helping develop a reddit alternative so they can't be all that bad.