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Trump regaled donors with jokes about rallygoer killed by would-be assassin: leaked audio (www.rawstory.com)

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 58 points 2 months ago

Ughh as usual fuck you media asshats... Not that it's really that much better, and believe me I fucking despise trump and the current day Republican party, but his joke was about other women.

He was making a misogynistic joke that other women would be thrilled to have money, and not care as much about their lost husband... He wasn't making a joke about the people at the rally or their slain family members as this article tries to make you believe... This helps no one rawstory and only reenforces Magoos belief that all media is biased against trump.

Hit him for the misogynistic nature of the joke, no need to lie about who it was aimed at...

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump is using the widows response to her husbands death to deliver a joke. Trying to make the whole thing funny. How is that joke not at their expense, when it’s built on their situation?
Trump is absolutely being disgusting, and half the people here can't even see it?

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Its a joke that tells you what he thinks about relationships. That they are inherently transactional, with "rare" outliers like this widow in his story.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you. I'm glad to see someone else saying this. RawStory should be banned. They are as much disinformation as anything on the right. They take things out of context, twist the wording, and sometimes blatantly lie just to create rage bait. The biggest things they achieve making the left look as bad as the right and giving Trump legitimate ammunition to use when he says the media are out to get him.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

I absolutely agree. Almost every RawStory piece I see is pretty garbage and the exact type of nonsense and same wanton disregard for fact that infuriates me about the Right's media ecosphere.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump said members of his Mar-a-Lago resort asked to make contributions to the families of Comperatore, a retired firefighter who was fatally shot, and two other supporters who were wounded by 20-year-old gunman Thomas Crooks at the July 13 event in Butler.

“I said absolutely and they gave me a check for a million dollars – that’s a lot of money," Trump said. "Maybe even more impressively we put out a GoFundMe and we raised more than $6 million for the group that got hurt, which is essentially three people.”

This man is an embarrassment that keeps me awake at night.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Hate trump but I think RawStory is misrepresenting this as they do much else.

Here is the reporting for the Guardian, a mpre legitimate source of news:

Then, recalling a meeting with Comperatore’s widow, Helen, he made a risky attempt to find humour in the tragedy. “So they’re going to get millions of dollars but the woman, the wife, this beautiful woman, I handed her the cheque – we handed her the cheque – and she said, ‘This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I’d much rather have my husband.’ Now, I know some of the women in this room wouldn’t say the same.”

As dinner guests erupted in laughter, Trump quipped: “I know at least four couples. There are four couples, Governor [Abbott], that I know and you’re not one of them. At least four couples here would have been thrilled, actually.”

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago

If a random comedian made that joke it would be offensive and slightly funny.

He's a former president, vying to be the next president, using a very real person's trauma to set up the punch-line of a joke. It's inappropriate and shows his lack of empathy.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's inappropriate etc but it's not exactly making fun of the dead.

I try to think about these things from a "what would a median/swing voter think if they read this AND knew the context." I firmly believe that misleading headlines etc have helped trump by making it harder for those in the middle to trust media outlets.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The first quote is the EXACT same as the OP article, and it's disgusting to crack a joke about women rather have the money than their husband back. As the finale to a story about the woman who just lost her husband.
From the article 3rd paragraph:

“So they’re going to get millions of dollars but the woman, the wife, this beautiful woman, I handed her the check," Trump told the appreciative audience. "We handed her the check – and she said, ‘This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I’d much rather have my husband.’ Now, I know some of the women in this room wouldn’t say the same.”

So what part about making a joke about it is it they misrepresent?

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Still sounds like a joke at his expense, no?

[-] kamiheku@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

Not at his expense IMO, but poor taste anyhow

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

How is it not at his expense, to make a joke that some women would rather have the money than their husband back?

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think it's at his expense? The idea is that the deceased and his widow were in love and would value each other more than money:

‘This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I’d much rather have my husband.’

whereas he claims that some people in the audience would be thrilled to trade their spouses for money.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump is using the widows response to her husbands death to deliver a joke. Trying to make the whole thing funny.
How is that joke not at their expense, when it's built on their situation?

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"Ha, these two were deeply in love and had a marriage stronger than money! What losers!" Fairly hard to make the claim the joke is at their expense.

This might be a language thing though? The phrase at their expense tends to mean that whomever is the butt of the joke. In this case, the four audience marriages are the butt of the joke as they are not as in love as the deceased.

I don't know if you're old enough to have spoken at funerals. There are jokes you tell while doing so, usually framed like this wherein you're praising the deceased (usually a common memory, like their cooking) and comparing yourself or the crowd unfavourably.

Now, I'm not sure it was appropriate or wise for trump to try this at a fundraiser but it seems disingenuous to say he was making fun of the deceased, which is how most English readers would interpret the headline.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Very poor taste at the best. Crass regard for the tragedy is normal for the old weird felon.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh absolutely. It's just the phrasing of the headline implies he's joking about how dumb or whatever the guy is instead of say, that he had a beautiful and loving marriage.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, it's actually worse than I thought. Yeah, he's fucking deranged.

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