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Fool of a Kirk! (lemmy.world)
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

I think it's funny that fans had to come up for a plausible way for there to just be a new Enterprise a very short time after the old one was destroyed.

It's the sort of thing I think is silly about "serious" fans. Why was there a new Enterprise all ready to go? There just was.

Just like how Tom Paris went faster than the infinite speed of Warp 10 but wasn't going infinitely fast. He just wasn't.

Also, while we're at it, the claim that the Millennium Falcon did the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs means "the ship goes really fast." What I love about that one is the convoluted explanation that makes up for the fact that George Lucas didn't know what a parsec was while totally glossing over the fact that somehow falcons exist in another galaxy.

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

Just like how Tom Paris went faster than the infinite speed of Warp 10 but wasn't going infinitely fast. He just wasn't.

Also, the Enterprise had already traveled faster than warp 10 multiple times in TOS. Just another reason to ignore Threshold?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

FWIW, the official word from on high was that the idea of warp was revised some time between TOS and TNG. But whatever. I really don't care what "warp 5" means. It doesn't mean anything important except "faster than warp 4 and slower than warp 6."

If you care about canon, I'm afraid that Lower Decks is considered canonical and Lower Decks has made Threshold canonical.

But honestly, as long as it entertains me, I'm not really all that bothered by this stuff.

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

That's it. Nothing past The Undiscovered Country is canon.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Re: Star Wars parsec, it's actually in the script that Obi Wan looks at him like looking at an idiot, seeing the obvious misinformation through. People just saw the movie and made a shitstorm about it, despite it perfectly setting up Obi Wan and Solo characters - a negotiation between a hustler and a wise man.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Misinformation about how fast the ship was, not misinformation about what a parsec is:

                               HAN
                     It's the ship that made the Kessel 
                     run in less than twelve parsecs!

           Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with 
           obvious misinformation.

George Lucas is not a scientist. He just didn't know what 'parsec' meant.

[-] JWBananas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

somehow falcons exist in another galaxy

Why not? They speak English.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago

Lore and continuity is the playground equipment of a fandom.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Sometimes. But often times people take it way too seriously and there's no need to. "Above warp 10" means super duper fast. That's it. That's the amount of thought that was put into it when it was written.

Most science fiction TV writers are not scientists. They don't think of things that way. They want a good story, not a 100% plausible one.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Bartender: “Rigelian Sun Wine! One sip can sustain a man for a whole day.”

Sulu: “How many bottles have you drank so far?”

Scotty: “Four.”

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Which means it was actually sixteen.

[-] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 12 points 2 months ago

This is what I needed to see today. Thank you

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

And here I was worried that there might not be enough crossover between Trek and LOTR fans for this meme to land.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

...the Venn diagram isn't a circle?

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Astoundingly, no.

[-] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That was my question…

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

What about DS9? VOYAGER? afternoon TNG? lower decks? SNW? He knows about them, doesn't he?

[-] mercano@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Throws a Kelvinverse boxed set at Pippen.

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