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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Ah sweet! Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Lovely place

[-] nick@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah, turns out war is pretty fucked up. Look up the rape of nanjing. Or Pearl Harbor. Or Hiroshima.

You get the idea.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Imperial Japan was obviously a fascist state that needed to be dismantled (and sadly wasn't nearly as much as it should have been), but if we're talking barbarism, Pearl Harbor was nothing compared to the other items listed. It was an air strike on a naval base, nothing was really exceptional about it except that it's rare for someone to dare to attack the US.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

It was done during a period of negotiations for peace. It was the perfidy, not the damage, with a dose of racism/xenophobia that mobilized Americans.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure it was because someone dropped bombs on American soil. In any case, the fact that it touched on the American aggrievement fetish does not put it on par with the other events listed.

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Liberals and the irresistible urge to compare yourself to literal Nazis

[-] nick@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

Not really sure what you mean here. Is that what I’m doing in your estimation?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Probably not intentionally. Looking at this and saying some variation of "war is hell" or "war is pretty fucked up" as you said is extremely handwavey. War being hell doesn't mean we can't focus on individual war crimes, particularly those done by the US.

Theres a lot of people who reflexively throw up there hands and say "War is Hell" (they're swarming here) when you bring up a US war crime. But if you bring up sonething done by a designated enemy of the US people don't do that.

Its may not be intentional but its still not good

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

It does add needed context though. These arent peacetime actions of civilians. These are the actions of people forced into melting pot of slaughter.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Its a war crime

[-] nick@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah. I considered mentioning 9/11…. Of 1973. But suspect most people don’t know the us supported an attack on a foreign country surreptitiously. And abu ghraib, but wasn’t sure how it’s spelled.

This country is militarily fucked up, as are the cops.

There’s no whitewashing for me.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, the real 9/11 allende-rhetoric

I don't know how spell abu graib either lol

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

And Japanese cannibalism of executed POW's, and Ishii's biological warefare unit. War is Hell.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah, so taking skulls as war trophies is fine

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The US was the model for biological testing and eugenics, that's not why they fought japan, nor was it even one of the stated reasons at the time.

[-] hackerwacker@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Nothing personnel kid

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Just normal Freedom and Democracy things, no need to worry about it

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

What does this say about the guys that thought this was a good idea?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

That they're war criminals

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Turns out if you dehumanise your enemies completely, war crimes happen.

Although the japanese mostly just mutilated you when you were alive.

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