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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Ah sweet! Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Lovely place

[–] nick@midwest.social 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, turns out war is pretty fucked up. Look up the rape of nanjing. Or Pearl Harbor. Or Hiroshima.

You get the idea.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imperial Japan was obviously a fascist state that needed to be dismantled (and sadly wasn't nearly as much as it should have been), but if we're talking barbarism, Pearl Harbor was nothing compared to the other items listed. It was an air strike on a naval base, nothing was really exceptional about it except that it's rare for someone to dare to attack the US.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was done during a period of negotiations for peace. It was the perfidy, not the damage, with a dose of racism/xenophobia that mobilized Americans.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure it was because someone dropped bombs on American soil. In any case, the fact that it touched on the American aggrievement fetish does not put it on par with the other events listed.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Liberals and the irresistible urge to compare yourself to literal Nazis

[–] nick@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not really sure what you mean here. Is that what I’m doing in your estimation?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Probably not intentionally. Looking at this and saying some variation of "war is hell" or "war is pretty fucked up" as you said is extremely handwavey. War being hell doesn't mean we can't focus on individual war crimes, particularly those done by the US.

Theres a lot of people who reflexively throw up there hands and say "War is Hell" (they're swarming here) when you bring up a US war crime. But if you bring up sonething done by a designated enemy of the US people don't do that.

Its may not be intentional but its still not good

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It does add needed context though. These arent peacetime actions of civilians. These are the actions of people forced into melting pot of slaughter.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Its a war crime

[–] nick@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. I considered mentioning 9/11…. Of 1973. But suspect most people don’t know the us supported an attack on a foreign country surreptitiously. And abu ghraib, but wasn’t sure how it’s spelled.

This country is militarily fucked up, as are the cops.

There’s no whitewashing for me.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Ah, the real 9/11 allende-rhetoric

I don't know how spell abu graib either lol

[–] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

And Japanese cannibalism of executed POW's, and Ishii's biological warefare unit. War is Hell.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, so taking skulls as war trophies is fine

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

The US was the model for biological testing and eugenics, that's not why they fought japan, nor was it even one of the stated reasons at the time.

[–] hackerwacker@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Nothing personnel kid

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Just normal Freedom and Democracy things, no need to worry about it

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What does this say about the guys that thought this was a good idea?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

That they're war criminals

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 4 months ago

Turns out if you dehumanise your enemies completely, war crimes happen.

Although the japanese mostly just mutilated you when you were alive.