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A nine-minute, unedited, undercover interview with Roger Stone revealed some of the MAGA ally’s more disturbing goals for a second Trump administration.

The covert recording of a discussion between Stone and an undercover journalist at a meet and greet in Jacksonville, Florida, on August 4, published by documentarian Lauren Windsor, caught Stone admitting live on camera that he already intends to send “armed guards to dispute the election in Detroit” and to imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr if Trump returns to power.”

Under the guise of discussing a far-right program to get more like-minded people back into the federal government, Stone shared his disdain for Barr, deriding him as a “traitorous piece of human garbage.” He also lamented that, while president, “Donald Trump never controlled the Justice Department.”


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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 119 points 1 month ago

Plotting coups has been Roger Stone’s MO for decades. He was behind the Brooks Brothers Riot in 2000, and the J6 insurrection. He’s one of the key players and amongst the most dangerous fascists in the US, and it’s astounding he manages to stay out of our conversations – and largely away from repercussions – to the extent he does.

He’s been getting away with absolutely devastating ratfuckery since Nixon (whose face is literally tattooed on his back).

He desperately needs consequences. He’s needed consequences for decades.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

successfully plotting coups

Ftfy. We should keep in mind that this guys approach to coups has actually worked in the past. The first attempt at a stolen election was 2000, and it worked.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, and he’s been carefully learning from his failures ever since, honing his strategies in concert with other actually intelligent fascists like Bannon, Miller, etc, as well as foreign dictators like Erdoğan, Orbán, and Putin.

This threat is not being taken seriously enough, partly because they have a buffoonish carnival barker of a front-man who, by design, deflects attempts to take the threat seriously.

It’s very worrisome.

e: weird crosshatch

[-] sudo@lemmy.today 40 points 1 month ago

When people talk about the 'deep state' and all of the conspiracies of shadowy cabals, in reality it's just this fucking piece of shit.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

This piece of shit, plus the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and a handful of others. He’s basically their mercenary.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Peter Thiel too now. Penetrate that prick with a perpendicular pineapple.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

Add Leonard Leo to the list too.

The projection about deep-state fuckery is because they run a wannabe-deep-state themselves.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

He should be in prison for the rest of his life and kissing the feet of everyone else that he wasn't put in front of a firing squad.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago

Will be super glad when this fucker is worm shit.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago

Wow. Pretty serious accusation. Any word on when the DOJ will be indicting him?

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 month ago

Garland:

such an action would be unconscionably divisive this close to a presidential election

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 42 points 1 month ago

The DOJ will investigate and then do nothing to hold them accountable, as is tradition.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

They have concepts of a plan for investigation.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 7 points 1 month ago

I am certain they will make an announcement about an investigation that MIGHT lead to action... After the election.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

This shitbird needs to go back to prison. The fact he's out at all is a complete miscarriage of justice.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Cases like him are why we actually do need the death penalty (and why it's the Constitutionally-prescribed punishment for treason). As we can see from Trump's pardoning of him, any lesser punishment isn't final enough.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Unhung traitors kill republics

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[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago
[-] cabbage@piefed.social 36 points 1 month ago

Or for any other crime, for that matter.

It's insane how much crime we're willing to tolerate as long as it's committed by rich white people.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

...rich white Republican people, that is.

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Biden could solve a lot of problems with just a couple executive actions right now.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I wish this asshat would be imprisoned already. Fucking traitorous filth.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

*Another coup. This is, what, coup #3? Brooks brothers riot in 2000, J6, and now 2024.

What happened to punishing treasonous fuckers?

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

They never prosecuted the business plot. This is the long game version of it.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago

Or prosecuted Nixon. And let Oliver North take the fall for Iran Contra.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When I think of Roger Stone, I think of the ignominiousness of Roy Cohn, and the especially ironic (and very horrible) way he died.

Sadly, as much as I hate Roger Stone, I cannot wish that upon him. However, I do hope he does meet at least an equal amount of irony in his demise.

Edit: for the curious, check out Angels in America. Be prepared to cry.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

He died of AIDS complications, which isn't a nice way to go but it's not notably worse than many of the other typical ways people die.

EDIT

A couple of people seem to be misreading what i wrote. I specifically said AIDS is a bad way to go, but so are zillions of other common ways such as Alzheimer's.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Having witnessed so many friends and a boyfriend die from this disease over the past few decades, I must say— you know nothing of how horrific this disease is. To live through or to witness.

The only reason it is, now, a survivable disease is nothing short of medical miracles— but it is particularly offensive to downplay - or even to equivocate - on its horrors. Keep in mind that the vast majority of those with HIV/AIDS cannot afford effective treatment to mitigate the disease, and, thusly, will die horribly from it.

We should always check our privilege. Not everyone in this world will ever get modern medical care. It’s something we all must work towards.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

I specifically said that it IS horrible, but so is dying from cancer, and so is dying from Alzheimer's, etc.

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[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AIDS. For such a devout and pernicious homophobe, he turned out to be gay, himself. And, fucking around with other men - without condoms in the 80s - was a terribly reckless practice. Of course, Roy Cohen could never imagine it happening to him, yet it did. It was his final indignity, and one of the most amazing forms of irony in practice in recent history.

[-] xapr 8 points 1 month ago

Ah, ok, thanks. Now that you mention it, that rings a bell. I understand better what you meant with your earlier post. Thanks.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

o7

Sometimes I forget how many younger people are here on lemmy, and all you kids may not get the older references.

Sad to say, but the Republicans have been absolute fuckfaces since the Nixon administration.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd say before, read up on that trashbag Goldwater for example. And he was their voice of sanity!

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And it’s extremely disturbing as to how far the Overton window has shifted to the right when compared to that crazy.

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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

From Wikipedia: "According to Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that."[64]" Cohn died (August 6, 1986) of complications related to AIDS, while in complete denial about that fact.

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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr

So I guess it's not all bad.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

It's the tip of the iceberg though. If they're ready to imprison on of their own, imagine what they'll do to anyone on the other side of the aisle.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

The POS Stone should stand in front of mirror and say, "he has to go to prison." That mofo is a sick lunatic neo-Nazi.

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Watching that video, Stone is either in the midst of a mental health crisis or has had a generous helping of Bolivian marching powder. Either way, what a weirdo.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I see several comments wondering why Stone hasn't been put in prison. He was, but Trump pardoned him (and a bunch of others)

From his Wikipedia page:

On January 25, 2019, Stone was arrested at his Fort Lauderdale, Florida, home in connection with Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation and charged in an indictment with witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements. In November 2019, a jury convicted him on all seven felony counts. He was sentenced to 40 months in prison. On July 10, 2020, days before Stone was scheduled to report to prison, Trump commuted his sentence. On August 17, 2020, he dropped the appeal of his convictions. Trump pardoned Stone on December 23, 2020.

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I'm about 95% this fucker planned the first attempt on tRump as a publicity stunt. #OperationKonserve

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

No shit he's planning a coup.

[-] wsf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Roger couldn't plot a circle with a compass.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 month ago

Soooo. Jail, right?

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

He'll 100% get away with it. imagine if you or I said shit like this.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Sounds like treason with the penalty of death if I recall correctly.

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

On the plus side, imprisoning Bill Barr sounds like a good plan.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is it a video of "anything he's ever said or done"?

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