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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21049862

The only numbers I will ever spell are one and zero, and only when using them as a pronoun, or for emphasis, respectively.

Is there ever a reason to not to use symbols when dealing with numbers? Why would "fourteen whatevers" ever be preferable to "14 whatevers". It's just so much easier to read numbers as symbols, not spelled out.

(Caveat, not including multipliers, like "273 billion").

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[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Context is everything, IMO.

In engineering work, numbers should always be digits. In prose, numbers should be spelled out.

Breakfast at the Thompson's was a busy affair; 12 eggs and 6 rounds of toast for their 3 sets of boistrous twins.

Compared to

Breakfast at the Thompson's was a busy affair; twelve eggs and six rounds of toast for their three sets of boistrous twins.

To me it's pretty clear which of those reads better and more naturally as prose; digits really 'jump out' on the page, and while that is great for engineering texts, it is incongruent and distracting for prose.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 6 days ago

I was taught you only spell out numbers ten and under, so I would write it:

Breakfast at the Thompson’s was a busy affair; 12 eggs and six rounds of toast for their three sets of boisterous twins.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

yeah the first, we don't need letters when we have numbers

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[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 week ago

There are exceptions to every rule. Sometimes it ends up being "between five and 15" which is psychotic.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Caveat, not including multipliers, like "273 billion"

You mean 273e9?

[-] dirkgentle@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

More like 273G in engineering.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

TIL engineers use gazillion

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s a highly technical term for “lots and lots.”

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Only if you have a unit.

273 GW 👍

Else, looks kind weird, to my eyes anyway. But fair point haha

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Too bad people underuse it.

Separating the prefixes from the unities is very useful even in calculations where both are there.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You do you, but this is a big no-no from my point of view.

For example separating the prefix m from mm would be rather confusing, and look like another unit.

You can, however, put 10^x wherever you like 👍

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Euros count as a unit 😏

3.5 G€

Ok, while I'm being facetious, let's do it for dollars too. G$3.5... oh that's horrible!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I've never seen that outside of videogames

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'll allow billion, but personally my preference is using powers of 10 or unit prefixes.

Just I'm not gonna be mad about the newspaper writing 3.5 billion dollars.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Unless that number means something different from US$ 3.5e9.

If you are one of those people that think your country uses the other "billion", just don't.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Touche, yeah, I'd totally be on board if everyone just uses $3.5*10⁹ or $3.5e9. Good luck getting it catch on outside eng/science circles though haha

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Any number that I write down is a number. I am not writing novels, the numbers I write down are supposed to be easy you find. You look through the document to find numbers, that is easy to do.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'm with you on this. I'm not sure if this was clear in the meme (I am an engineer), but I think the style guides can go shove it. I'm always going to write the symbols, not spell it out.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I spell out numbers when I want to emphasize them.

Take George Orwell for example:

"Nineteen Eighty-Four" has a lot more of a punch to it than just "1984."

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I used to work in a library, and I hate this. We used to have both a "2001: a space Odyssey" and a "two thousand and one: a space oddesey", sorted based on the spelling.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Isn't that part of the reason we have Dewey/LoC system?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Those are for academic books, not novels. And you'd still sort everything within a category alphabetically by author and then by title (usually)

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I found Larry Flynt's autobiography at my university's library using the LCCN system.

Then again that's a University library so it might be different.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah haha, this is why it came to my mind. In this case it's a title, so not really for the purpose of being used as a number.

Though, I suppose I didn't specify this

[-] Mechaguana@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

00, 01, 10 there i did it

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I somehow have "spell out if less than 13" burned in my mind from somewhere in middle school. No idea if it is right, but so far it has worked.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago
[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Spell out numbers under 10, but not when it's divisible by three or five.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Hahaha, of course, it makes so much sense now

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