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I currently have two TVs, one I use an appleTV with and the other with a googleTV HD (device formerly known as Chromecast), but they both have issues.

The jellyfin app on appleTV is messed up, it fucks up audio and subs all the time, and in general has a hard time with media that has multiple audio tracks, not using the audio I select with the remote.

The googleTV just stutters with almost everything, direct stream or transcoded doesn't matter. All of my library is just 1080p, I have proper wifi to it, all mobile devices stream just fine.

So neither of these provide me with a solution that really works.

What solutions can you recommend, that allows for seamless navigation of jellyfin with my remote? I don't want anything resembling a mouse/keyboard combo for navigation whatsoever.

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago

I don't have specific troubleshooting advice to give, but I have been using an Nvidia Shield Pro as my main streaming device for about 4 years now. It is overpriced for what it is, but it has been rock solid for streaming via both Jellyfin and Plex.

The official Jellyfin app is definitely not as polished as Plex, but it has consistently worked for me on the Shield.

[-] _TheLoneDeveloper_@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago

I will agree, I got an Nvidia shield pro two years ago, I was a bit afraid because it's a product from 2019, but damn it's been rock solid, it plays everything, it's quite open and not limited like some other boxes, it's even faster than the most Samsung smart TVs that I have tried, I can't recommend it enough, even at the end of 2024 it doesn't have any issues when playing YouTube and Plex.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I bought two like two months ago and they still hold up. I was very leery buying a 2019 model in 2024 but zero regrets (and I'll be getting another).

I wish it had another HDMI and 2.5GBE but those aren't deal breakers by any means.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

I know people knock it, but Plex has worked without issue for me for years. They have apps dedicated to every type of media for easy browsing. It’s so simple my mom can use it without help.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

Second Plex. It just works and doesn't need any big configuration to get it running

[-] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

Third Plex. It's a bit baffling as to why it's got such a bad rep recently because it performs its core function of serving media incredibly well, is super easy (barely an inconvenience) to setup, and there's apps for every conceivable platform.

Yes there's a few features locked behind a subscription (though they still sell lifetime passes, often at good discounts) and they're trying to "legitimize" with their ad-backed streaming thing, but the core product of local media server is still very much there, and free, and isn't going anywhere.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago

Exactly, and in contrast to Jellyfin it actually looks like someone with expertise in UI has worked on theirs. I personally would also prefer a monetization similar to Immich, but the lifetime pass on sale is definitely money well spent.

[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

You may want check out Infuse for the AppleTV. I have found it fixed every audio drift and video jitter concern that I’ve ever had with Plex or Jellyfin.

You can point it either directly at an SMB share, or a library hosted on Jellyfin or Plex. The advantage of this is it caches the artwork in the library, not on the AppleTV, because the AppleTV will periodically flush its local cache, leading to long re-fetching times and waiting to watch things.

I have no recommendations for the Chromecast.

[-] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 7 points 6 days ago

My solution to that issue is to share my media over NFS with a raspberry pi connected to the TV, the pi runs OSMC (https://osmc.tv/) and has the media direct. you can control OSMC on the pi with your TV remote

[-] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Have you tried non official jellyfin clients? I had issues with the official app on AppleTV as well, so I switched to Infuse. The free app supports most things and I think the paid gives access to additional codecs if I recall correctly. The pro upgrade isn’t too expensive and the app is sleek across Apple devices. Only issue I’ve really had is sometimes if a video is not played to the end (as in, stopped during credits) it still shows up in the continue watching, but that might be a problem on my end.

I think MXPlayer is similar on Android which might be worth checking out.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Nah, I think that's an issue with the jellyfin server. It happens to me too, using Swiftfin on AppleTV.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

I think that's an issue with the jellyfin server

It's just weird that audio tracks works correctly on all other devices, this is only happening on the appleTV.

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[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Unless you have a commitment to only using open source software, I'd recommend Plex over Jellyfin. Mostly because I've found the client software for Jellyfin to be lacking, especially on AppleTV.

For the issues with the GoogleTV, you mention that it's on WiFi, would it be possible to use a wired connection or get another set top box for it? Some TVs have the WiFi antenna behind the screen causing interference, so even though other devices get a strong signal the TV doesn't.

Also, how's the hardware on your server? Is the CPU powerful enough or do you have a GPU for transcoding? Also, is the server on WiFi or wired?

It's worth noting that a lot of settop boxes have limited codec support, which might be forcing transcoding even if everything should otherwise support direct play.

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[-] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

I am using the "Chromecast with Google TV" connected to wifi via 5ghz and use mkv files from collection via Jellyfin. I used to transcode from the i7-8700u but larger files took too long to start playing (with quicksync and proper drivers and passthrough) and tried turning off transcode and surprising works fine without issues. Ive tried 15gb files without issues.

So i would suggest checking your set up to make sure not something configured wrong and if you use mkv files try turning off all transcode to see if it works better.

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

Same experience here.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Since you are against using plex even with using it only locally I would suggest you look into the Jellyfin clients support. Specifically look at each client device documentation and take a look at what audio and video codex they natively support. If there is one they both support then I suggest you do some testing and stream a movie or show that is encoded with that specific format. This will let you know if it will work across both clients whether it’s a stream issue hardware issue or Wi-Fi issue.

This will prevent transcoding that can cause audio sync issues.

Edit - if that works then I suggest you convert you library to that format.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

I don't have audio sync issues at all. I have issues with appleTV using the wrong audio track when I select something different than the default. E.g. if I select Danish, it shows that it's using the Danish track but it's actually playing something else like Finnish or Swedish. This behaviour is only on the appleTV and no other devices.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Ahh, well I have found the Jellyfin clients to be less than perfect on appleTV. You may want to try another endpoint client if you don't want to try another server side software.

[-] OneCardboardBox 4 points 6 days ago

There used to be a similar bug in the Roku jellyfin app.

If you can recreate the subtitle issue using test file 5 from this repo, it might be worth submitting a bug report. https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-test-files

[-] fpslem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Roku Jellyfin app has been pretty good lately, few complaints now!

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Does it need to use the remote? I have a Chromecast (the casting device, not the app running device) and I use the Jellyfin app on my phone and I cast to the Chromecast. Works fine for me.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

Doesn't need to be the remote, but it does need to work independently of other devices than what's connected to the TV. Having to cast from a device doesn't really work with how we use TV watching in our house, especially for the kids since they don't have their own phones or tablets to do it from.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I stream from Jellyfin to an Apple TV without your issues. It might be a network or configuration problem.

Have you tried Infuse, SenPlayer or other clients?

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It might be a network or configuration problem.

I'm not sure how a network issue would cause the jellyfin client to select the wrong audio track? E.g. when I select Danish, it sometimes uses the Finnish or Swedish track. This only happens on the appleTV, all other devices use the selected track correctly.

I have not tried other clients, none show up when I search for jellyfin in the app store on the device, so I wasn't aware there were others for appleTV.

[-] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

As suggested above, I would try Infuse player. I recently switched from a Kodi/Jellyfin setup to an Apple TV/Jellyfin setup and I’m extremely happy with it. Infuse has a free trial, and then you can choose to pay a few different ways (they do have a rather expensive lifetime option, but it might be worth it). The Infuse app has no trouble playing directly from my Jellyfin server, no transcoding, even for full 4K Bluray rips, and yes it even supports Dolby Vision (which the native Jellyfin app struggles with). No hiccups, no issues with multiple audio tracks or subtitles, it’s just buttery smooth direct playback.

It also has a couple different ways of interacting with your Jellyfin library, so it feels completely seamless to me.

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[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

I use Emby. It’s similar to Jellyfin, but the Apps get a little more attention to detail. Worth a try, and if you don’t need gpu transcoding you don’t need to pay.

But, if I was still using an Apple TV, I would use Infuse.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

The jellyfin problem is probably it downmixing surround 7.1 really shittily. You can run tdarr to downmix surround into stereo before you watch. Kind of a pain but it's the only workaroumd I've got for the shit audio

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

I went the other way and just set up 7.1 sound. Being able to control the music and the speech channels has been really useful.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Not a bad idea honestly. That's my next project after a home server upgrade.

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