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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I currently have two TVs, one I use an appleTV with and the other with a googleTV HD (device formerly known as Chromecast), but they both have issues.

The jellyfin app on appleTV is messed up, it fucks up audio and subs all the time, and in general has a hard time with media that has multiple audio tracks, not using the audio I select with the remote.

The googleTV just stutters with almost everything, direct stream or transcoded doesn't matter. All of my library is just 1080p, I have proper wifi to it, all mobile devices stream just fine.

So neither of these provide me with a solution that really works.

What solutions can you recommend, that allows for seamless navigation of jellyfin with my remote? I don't want anything resembling a mouse/keyboard combo for navigation whatsoever.

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[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

I know people knock it, but Plex has worked without issue for me for years. They have apps dedicated to every type of media for easy browsing. It’s so simple my mom can use it without help.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Second Plex. It just works and doesn't need any big configuration to get it running

[-] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

Third Plex. It's a bit baffling as to why it's got such a bad rep recently because it performs its core function of serving media incredibly well, is super easy (barely an inconvenience) to setup, and there's apps for every conceivable platform.

Yes there's a few features locked behind a subscription (though they still sell lifetime passes, often at good discounts) and they're trying to "legitimize" with their ad-backed streaming thing, but the core product of local media server is still very much there, and free, and isn't going anywhere.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Exactly, and in contrast to Jellyfin it actually looks like someone with expertise in UI has worked on theirs. I personally would also prefer a monetization similar to Immich, but the lifetime pass on sale is definitely money well spent.

[-] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

I am using the "Chromecast with Google TV" connected to wifi via 5ghz and use mkv files from collection via Jellyfin. I used to transcode from the i7-8700u but larger files took too long to start playing (with quicksync and proper drivers and passthrough) and tried turning off transcode and surprising works fine without issues. Ive tried 15gb files without issues.

So i would suggest checking your set up to make sure not something configured wrong and if you use mkv files try turning off all transcode to see if it works better.

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

Same experience here.

[-] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

an old laptop/desktop (like 6th-gen Intel or newer) that boots directly into jellyfin-media-player in TV fullscreen mode. it supports any remote that can emmit up-down-left-right, enter, esc (like, via InputRemapper). disable transcoding on the server and play anything you want via direct stream.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Was looking for something a bit more elegant...An old laptop is going to look like shit

[-] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

stove them out of sight? well, you can go for a mini-PC if price isn't an issue. but these things can be had for ultra-cheap, especially if you have one laying around or get one with a busted screen or sumsuch. an android box is a hit or miss, maybe it's good, maybe it's crap, maybe it's loaded with malware... the middle ground would be a Raspberry Pi, there are unofficial LineageOS Android TV builds.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

stove them out of sight?

We have a fairly minimalistic setup around the TV, there's nowhere to hide it which is why we originally went with an appleTV because it looks pretty decent.

[-] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Raspberry Pi with a cute case then, and/or glued/velcroed to the back of the TV. they also support HDMI-CEC so your TV's remote can work.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Do you know of a solution won't boots directly to jellyfin and can ONLY be used with that?

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

You can also just install the libreelec os (Kodi), and install the Jellyfin Kodi addon. Haven't tried that addon. I used to use Kodi when I had only one TV, and liked it. Now that I have 2 Android TVs, just installing Jellyfin on the TVs works fine. I might go back to rPIs and disconnect my TVs from the internet though.

[-] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

like a commercially available one? negative, you have to tinker and make it such.

if you have linux on the player (like with said PC or Raspberry) you have full control and can set it up to boot directly into jellyfin-media-player in fullscreen TV mode (that's the one where remotes work).

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah I really prefer as close to plug-and-play as possible, I don't want to spend hours tinkering to get something that basic working.

I'll take a look and see if it's low effort enough.

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 0 points 6 days ago

Got an amazon firestick pro 4k. Have just a 1080p TV, but the pro4k hardware is just better than the other models.

Fully satisfied. Works beautiful with Jelly fin TV app.

Has amazon advertising tough, so YMMV.

[-] fry 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Are you hellbent on using Jellyfin? It's basically a Kodi for dummies where they removed the best parts, kept the worst and and slapped on a pretty ui. It's bloated behind the scenes and does have it quirks.

An alternative could be to just set up an NFS share with your media and use whatever player you like. Nova video player on Google/Android TV isn't as pretty as Jellyfin but it gets the work done.

I've had zero issues with Infuse on apple tv. Easy to navigate, looks good and plays stuff on my network shares. I think there is support for adding a Jellyfin library as a source as well but I haven't tried it.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago
[-] fry 3 points 6 days ago
[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

Now that's a low bar if I've ever seen one

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's important that I can restrict certain users to specific content based on age rating, i dont want to do that manually. the server has content for both kids and adults, and my *arr stack + jellyfin works really well aside from these two devices which have quirks.

I've use Kodi years ago, i absolutely hated using it.

A simple and intuitive UI is important, since the kids have to be able to use it as well.

[-] fry 1 points 6 days ago

I see. The multi user support in Jellyfin is arguably one of its strengths so that's a shame. Don't have a good recommendation in that case.

Adult or not, Android/Google tv lacks good media centers or video players. Jellyfin, Kodi, Nova or VLC are basically your options and they are all crap in their own way. If you don't want to watch something on Netflix, HBO etc. It's really a bummer.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

I don't have specific troubleshooting advice to give, but I have been using an Nvidia Shield Pro as my main streaming device for about 4 years now. It is overpriced for what it is, but it has been rock solid for streaming via both Jellyfin and Plex.

The official Jellyfin app is definitely not as polished as Plex, but it has consistently worked for me on the Shield.

[-] _TheLoneDeveloper_@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

I will agree, I got an Nvidia shield pro two years ago, I was a bit afraid because it's a product from 2019, but damn it's been rock solid, it plays everything, it's quite open and not limited like some other boxes, it's even faster than the most Samsung smart TVs that I have tried, I can't recommend it enough, even at the end of 2024 it doesn't have any issues when playing YouTube and Plex.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I bought two like two months ago and they still hold up. I was very leery buying a 2019 model in 2024 but zero regrets (and I'll be getting another).

I wish it had another HDMI and 2.5GBE but those aren't deal breakers by any means.

[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

You may want check out Infuse for the AppleTV. I have found it fixed every audio drift and video jitter concern that I’ve ever had with Plex or Jellyfin.

You can point it either directly at an SMB share, or a library hosted on Jellyfin or Plex. The advantage of this is it caches the artwork in the library, not on the AppleTV, because the AppleTV will periodically flush its local cache, leading to long re-fetching times and waiting to watch things.

I have no recommendations for the Chromecast.

[-] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 7 points 1 week ago

My solution to that issue is to share my media over NFS with a raspberry pi connected to the TV, the pi runs OSMC (https://osmc.tv/) and has the media direct. you can control OSMC on the pi with your TV remote

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Unless you have a commitment to only using open source software, I'd recommend Plex over Jellyfin. Mostly because I've found the client software for Jellyfin to be lacking, especially on AppleTV.

For the issues with the GoogleTV, you mention that it's on WiFi, would it be possible to use a wired connection or get another set top box for it? Some TVs have the WiFi antenna behind the screen causing interference, so even though other devices get a strong signal the TV doesn't.

Also, how's the hardware on your server? Is the CPU powerful enough or do you have a GPU for transcoding? Also, is the server on WiFi or wired?

It's worth noting that a lot of settop boxes have limited codec support, which might be forcing transcoding even if everything should otherwise support direct play.

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[-] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Have you tried non official jellyfin clients? I had issues with the official app on AppleTV as well, so I switched to Infuse. The free app supports most things and I think the paid gives access to additional codecs if I recall correctly. The pro upgrade isn’t too expensive and the app is sleek across Apple devices. Only issue I’ve really had is sometimes if a video is not played to the end (as in, stopped during credits) it still shows up in the continue watching, but that might be a problem on my end.

I think MXPlayer is similar on Android which might be worth checking out.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Nah, I think that's an issue with the jellyfin server. It happens to me too, using Swiftfin on AppleTV.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

I think that's an issue with the jellyfin server

It's just weird that audio tracks works correctly on all other devices, this is only happening on the appleTV.

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[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Since you are against using plex even with using it only locally I would suggest you look into the Jellyfin clients support. Specifically look at each client device documentation and take a look at what audio and video codex they natively support. If there is one they both support then I suggest you do some testing and stream a movie or show that is encoded with that specific format. This will let you know if it will work across both clients whether it’s a stream issue hardware issue or Wi-Fi issue.

This will prevent transcoding that can cause audio sync issues.

Edit - if that works then I suggest you convert you library to that format.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

I don't have audio sync issues at all. I have issues with appleTV using the wrong audio track when I select something different than the default. E.g. if I select Danish, it shows that it's using the Danish track but it's actually playing something else like Finnish or Swedish. This behaviour is only on the appleTV and no other devices.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ahh, well I have found the Jellyfin clients to be less than perfect on appleTV. You may want to try another endpoint client if you don't want to try another server side software.

[-] OneCardboardBox 4 points 1 week ago

There used to be a similar bug in the Roku jellyfin app.

If you can recreate the subtitle issue using test file 5 from this repo, it might be worth submitting a bug report. https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-test-files

[-] fpslem@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Roku Jellyfin app has been pretty good lately, few complaints now!

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Does it need to use the remote? I have a Chromecast (the casting device, not the app running device) and I use the Jellyfin app on my phone and I cast to the Chromecast. Works fine for me.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Doesn't need to be the remote, but it does need to work independently of other devices than what's connected to the TV. Having to cast from a device doesn't really work with how we use TV watching in our house, especially for the kids since they don't have their own phones or tablets to do it from.

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