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[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

They look like they all secretly fucking hate each other haha

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Large parts of San Jose's population should be publically killed.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 91 points 1 day ago

“Progressivism never took root in geek culture because gamers didn’t see themselves as persecuted nerds, but as temporarily embarrassed jocks.” - DragonBallZinn

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are there any highschool subcultures that are cool now? Speaking from a US perspective:

  • Jocks are now finance/crypto bros, or clueless managers.
  • Nerds are building bombs or AI or spending their days trying to get people to click on ads.
  • Theatre kids are imperialist hamilton libs who think the US is "a nation of immigrants", and not a settler-state based on indigenous eviction.
  • Hippies are pacifist color-revolution-supporters.
  • Goths are probably eco-nihilists.
  • My experience with modern day punks, skaters, and stoners is that they're mostly some kind of libertarian who believe in a lot of reactionary conspiracy theories.
  • Hipsters are almost always some flavor of western-chauvinist / white supremacist.
[-] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Where did all the Greasers go?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago

These days they're mostly in retirement homes I think.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Goths are our best bet. They also have a lot of experience of dealing with anything of a spooky nature. stirner-cool.

In a world where everyone is a prep in spirit, be a proud goth.

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Mmh I knew a gothpunk hunk anarchist but he said that one should laugh at male SA victims when they come forward and that damaging police property is “cringe” but acab & hooliganism is good?

But I agree most goths are pretty cool.

[-] graymess@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Do any of these high school subcultures even still exist?

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Yes, I as a zoomer can say so confidently, although the lines arent so strong anymore. A lot nerdy hobbies are also done by the jocks and “jessicas” and the social groups are mixed up more.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

I was just thinking that everyone who is recognizable to their high school archetype is probably part of the problem.

literally, if all someone does is move along the rails after high school, they likely suck.

the only people from high school who aren't fucked in the dome 20+ years later, are the people who are wildly different humans now and have some life path that can't be quickly understood without interpretation.

also, the people who just plain vanished and don't have any socials could probably be cool.

[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Goths are probably eco-nihilists.

I prefer green anarchist doomer.

Nah the former jocks include finance bros and car dealership owners. You may not think of that as jock labor but they didn’t all go on and become professional athletes.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

finance bros and car dealership owners.

100% + the new techbros and cryptonerds. The talenyed athletes are not usually the stereotypical jocks.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don’t have the exact quote but in high school English it was required reading that we read this sci-fi book called Unwind and one of the protagonists actually made this connection.

“There were two types of cops: the bullies who peaked in high school that want to keep reliving their glory days, and people who were bullied that want to oppress undesirables as a misguided way to get revenge on ‘wrongdoers’.” - Unwind (not exact quote just what I vaguely remember.)

But it explains the two types of fascists and those in fash jobs perfectly.

EDIT: Here’s the full quote -

“The way Risa sees it, there are two types of people who become Juvey-cops. Type one: bullies who want to spend their lives reliving their glory days of high school bullying. Type Two: the former victims of type ones, who see every Unwind as the kid who tormented them all those years ago. Type twos are endlessly shoveling vengeance into a pit that will never be full. Amazing that the bullies and victims can now work together to bring misery to others.“

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The overlap in personality types between moneyed City of London finance bro trader types, and Silicon Valley start up wanks was startling when I first moved to SF. Engineers just exist to support their pump and dump schemes, and the culture reflects that

[-] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

they're all smiling yet none of them look like they have ever experienced joy

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago

jocks are crypto scammers, cops, and people high on the corporate ladder, hell the chief executive overlord of those nerds in the picture is probably a jock

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Notable jock Elongated Muskrat

my-hero

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

Ur-CEO big wet dump was a jock in his highschool and college days

trump-drenched

To clarify a teensy I looked it up (cuz i couldn't imagine him playing a team sport) and yeah, a "troublemaker military school bully type" jock not sports doing jock

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[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

They're nerds, we're nerds, it's nerds all the way down.

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

No, they're nerds we're dorks.

Big difference.

sure lets devolve everything to dumb stereotypes made up to sell merch thats very marxist of us

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago

its not that deep

Death to America

im tired boss

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Americans will divide themselves with little outside input. Under capitalist alienation, they seek to find an in-group with the most asinine qualifications possible. The end product are clothing that says something like "I am a VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER born in FEBRUARY who is a SLYTHERIN and likes COFFEE and AIRSOFT"

"Yeah I'm a nerd, I'm a Hoosier, I listen to Tool, I drink La Croix, I drive stick, I live in the suburbs, I watch DCEU #ReleaseYetAnothetSnyderCut, I own cats. What sportsball team is playing in the Superb Owl this year? Haha"

I think it's perfectly fine to make fun of them for their voluntary association with even ostensibly benign labels.

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[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 day ago

Anyone who had the pleasure of being in STEM would know that in 1 picosecond.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

More specifically TE part. I’ve taken biology classes and usually the bio majors are great people.

Way too many CS bros are just business majors in spirit that are at least smart enough to learn a real skill.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Didn't have the pleasure to interact with biology students in Uni, though I'll admit the people I met from biomedical engineering were pretty cool overall.

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[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

objection there are plenty of jocks in STEM, its a jock field these days except for maybe CS and software eng

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah chemical engineering was full of firmer jocks wanting to work in the oil industries also persians

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago

Jocks commiting war crimes:

side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[-] BigLenin@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Nah these days those are nerds too. I have a job where a work with a bunch of vets and most of them are massive fucking nerds who never held a rifle outside of basic.

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

Okay, but the Navy SEALs and infantry war criminals are jocks

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

If you're in tech and you're not trans, a gay furry or friends with a bunch of trans furries, you're in this picture.

[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

it's all down to the theatre kids to save the world now

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Hamilton 2: Ham Harder???

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[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

monkey-typewriter She grok on my twitter til I X dot com the everything site

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

why is the stereotype of big impressive sportman called 'jock'? while the 'jockey' is the smallest species of sportman?

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