Compulsory quarantine for people coming from the US into EU is gonna happen very fast
So they just want a mass die-off right?
Many nearly extinct diseases are already planning their great comeback tour in the US.
Wonder what will happen when the rest of the world denies entry to Americans for health reasons.
The fool gets more ignorant by the day sheesh
So RFKs gonna say “vaccinations bad”, and Trumps gonna be like “thanks for letting me know mate”, then cancel vaccinations…. And then the shit really will hit the fan.
So, what do we DO? Quick vacations abroad to get vaccines and prevent our kids from dying? Or just accept life as long as possible before the 2027 polio outbreak causes a lovely descent into chaos?
Much like women seeking health care across state lines, it may be required to travel to another state for vaccinations, and depending on supply and cost, perhaps traveling to another country would be practical.
As for outbreaks, either wear a mask and avoid crowds, or have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.
… have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.
I can’t imagine any country is super excited for American refugees
Yeah, most of the world has decided they don't like refugees. Best bet is probably to pretend to be a tourist.
Wow, the measles are going to absolutely ruin America, and then spread to the world. One of my family members was 'immune' to the vaccine for it, and a doctor took my aunt aside and told her that basically any large crowd was a danger to my cousin. IE. "Go to the fair and there's a chance he catches it." Luckily he was able to finally reach the % required that from the vaccine but I think he was 16 before that happened.
So many children are going to die. I wonder if people who didn't vote in the US are starting to realise what they've done.
and then spread to the world
But the rest of the world still has the vaccine programs. Very quickly Americans will require proof of vaccination before visiting other countries. While there might be an uptick in cases outside of the US, it will be nothing compared to within.
We're already having a problem with it in Canada, so I'm pretty damn nervous. I have family members who really rely on herd immunity.
Ya, I'm in Canada also. And unfortunately I know more than a couple of people who legit believe vaccines are a scam. But you can find idiots everywhere. I'm honestly not too worried about it here.
The issue is, especially for measles, herd immunity. There are some major problems with measles in particular, such as:
Measles is so contagious that one infected person can spread the respiratory virus to 90% of people in the same room—and it can live in the air for two hours. Often, an infected person doesn’t even know they have measles for several weeks.
and
Early symptoms include a fever, cough, runny nose, and red eyes, all of which could be overlooked as part of a common cold. A skin rash doesn’t typically appear until three to five days after the first symptoms appear. Someone with measles is contagious four days before the rash begins and four days after. There is no cure for measles, but if you’ve received the measles vaccine or are immune from a previous infection, consider yourself protected.
Another major problem is...:
Depending on the disease, herd immunity may begin to show beneficial effects when just 40% of the population is vaccinated. But for particularly contagious diseases, that threshold is far higher, exceeding 80%. The vaccination rate should be about 96% to achieve herd immunity for measles.
So we're going to have immune compromised people getting and then spreading measels. It hits children the hardest, and we're going to start seeing absolutely heart-breaking headlines about children dying to a completely preventable illness.
Oh, I don't disagree. Measles is horrible. It's even been found to reset a person's immune system. Like erased to newborn status.
But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians. And once those insane policies start happening in the US, the entire rest of the world is going to place travel restrictions to/from the US.
But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians.
I'm glad you do, and I don't. If, as polls show he should rather easily, Poilievre wins the next election we'll have a Prime Minister who marched with the Convoy. In addition, the Federal Conservative party voted in 2022 to not recognize climate change. The idea he'll place restrictions down is, to my mind, flat out wrong. I think he'll bow and kowtow to whatever Trump says, and from the amount of 'Make Canada Great Again' hats (And the full on MAGA ones as well, which is.. bizarre) I see throughout the interior of BC/Alberta, I think there's some serious indicators the voters will, too. John Rustad almost beat the BC NDP. Polls show 43% of voters in Ontario plan to vote for Doug Ford again.
I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don't understand where that faith comes from.
I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don't understand where that faith comes from.
Mostly from interacting quite a bit with Americans and seeing how much better Canada is by comparison. Don't get me wrong, things are tending down, but we've got quite a ways to go before we get that bad.
99 dead kids in the ground,
99 dead kids
Remove a vaccine, no longer to be found
999999999 dead kids in the ground
I guess Trump wants to eradicate the American population? How does this make them money?
A new period of prohibition begins. How do I buy vaccines illegally?
Likely Elon Musk and some other people are covert eugenicists. A lot of eugenicists work with Lysenko-style "genetics", and think generations surviving deadly diseases will bring forward a smarter and stronger humanity,
That makes sense. Musk is the poster child of pusedo-science.
Well, if America is no longer a superpower, then Putin and all his oligarchs buddies are planning on sweeping up the spoils of its ruin for themselves.
Wouldn't the diseases travel back to Europe of the US weakens at all? People immigrate to where the money is.
Yes it must be the vaccines that are causing autism rates! Ignore the studies and decades of evidence that show they don't, because they definitely do!
It's not all the micro plastic pollution, or car pollution, or chemicals in our water, or hormones in our food, no it's definitely the vaccines!
Even if there was anything real about the claim that vaccinations increased autism rates, using that as a justification to stop vaccinations would still be a crazy stance. Autism is not a deadly disease, but many of the things we vaccinate against are.
Or people could have been autistic all along, and just not diagnosed?
Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That's crazy. Good luck America.
They are not "pro-life", they are "pro-forced-birth".
Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what's happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we're stupid as fuck.
If vaccine requirements go away, this is bad
If vaccines become illegal or prohibitively expensive, this is a disaster
Enjoy your wiggly kids Republicans
Holy shit, is this for real?
Why the fuck are people still surprised?
It's been anticipated throughout the campaign, but kind of got overshadowed by all the other horrible stuff about Trump. RFK Jr. is the biggest anti-vaxxer in the world. Trump ran with him openly to get his cult on his side. This is the obvious result.
It seems like every horrible thing about Trump never gets any attention because of the other horrible things about Trump.
I hope at least a sizeable chunk of Trump voters regret voting for him. It breaks my heart to know that there are legitimately people who have paid attention to all his lies and already broken promises and still want the guy to lead the country. I don't know how to salvage someone like that.
Promote them to CEO
I researched this exact question. There is a way called deep canvasing https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-to-change-a-voters-mind-is-deep-canvassing/
It's scientifically proven. Try having a one on one conversation with someone. Listen to what they say and respond with empathy. Then gradually and calmly introduce your message that is related to what they said. For example if the person you are talking to said they are worried about grocery prices and specifically egg prices you could mention that bird flu was the root cause of the price increase and that Trump's tariffs will raise prices on groceries. Building trust helps your message get across. I've had personal conversations with Trump supporters who trust me and you'd be surprised how much success you can have.
It's interesting to see how much he will fuck up the country. I mean, terrifying, of course, but interesting too.
"trump to discuss bringing back ever terrible disease we got rid of or mitigated in the 1900s with RFK Jr."
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