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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 19 points 12 hours ago

"A-are we the baddies?"

[-] forrcaho@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago

I can't get inside the head of any of the crazies who go on a rampage and shoot up a school or a house of worship, but it gives me comfort to think that such people now know that if they shoot a CEO instead of a classroom full of children they will be regarded as having made a positive contribution to society. I really hope school shootings will go down after this, and I think they may well.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I know a school shooting up which wouldn't be a huge crime. Back then, that is. Now I can't be certain.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Its the same reality as before except they realize how close they are to the edge separating the game where they abuse us from the part where they don't get to play the game.

All of us play the game daily...go to work, do some good stuff, come home, eat, sleep. The good stuff. Why do we get so little and they get so much?

[-] OttoHasslein@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.

Selina Kyle

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia. Bring back the tax brackets from the 1950's and 60's.

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[-] redisdead@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

“When I was growing up, CEOs didn’t make millions more than everyone else in the company. I think we have to reflect on why there’s so much anger and do something about it.”, said someone who will do absolutely nothing about it.

[-] RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago
[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"...

We are quoting anonymously those who did respond, to allow them the freedom to give us their most candid answers. These have been edited for length and clarity. Some have previously been reported by Fortune.

**Personal responses to the killing **

— “The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing. This highlights the critical need to humanize leadership and address the pressures faced in high-visibility roles.”

— “My challenge is keeping employees engaged. How do you maintain a sense of purpose if you think your customers hate you?”

— “I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

— “If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.”

..."

Wow. 'demonization', 'need to humanize leadership'... Are these human people that were interviewed? Did these human persons speak anyone outside their immediate circle in the last three decades? I can hardly believe that, this is so out of touch that these folk may have never been touched by anything in their lives. I wasn't prepared for this speedrun worldrecord to definitively prove total lack of empathy and understanding.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Did these human persons speak anyone outside their immediate circle in the last three decades?

After late 90s and early 00s it seems that this has become rare.

First "speaking outside your immediate circle" has moved into interwebs. Second the interwebs have changed to no longer inconvenience those who don't want to see contradicting worldviews.

Just saying. CEOs are, of course, more isolated than many people. But their delusions are not unique by any measure.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about [that the CEOs created for them to distract them].

In this current discussion, people are trying to open each others eyes about that silent part.

Also: Most people don’t hate CEOs. But we do think CEOs have no right to be making more than a thousand times what an honest working person should make, actually sacrificing lives for their profit. And when that kind of stealing and mass murder is sanctioned by the law, then what are the options?

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I think its possible most people hate CEOs. Sort of like hating politicians, surely theres some good ones but on the whole, awful people.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

If most people hated CEOs, that would mean most people were capable of hating, which means we're even more fucked in this world than I thought we were. I don't hate. I see that some people are a threat to society and need to be kept from harming the latter - but I recognize that for people to be capable of atrocities, something in their brain development has gone terribly wrong at some point in the past. So I don't hate them, in the same way I don't hate a virus that kills people - while still recognizing the need for a cure / vaccine.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

The limit of 4 years is what's making me laugh.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

Because of course everything is tied to who the president is, in their mind. Democrats bad for business, mmm-kay?

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[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago

Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.

"...and that's a good thing, so we'll see to it that it remains that way. Divide and conquer."

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

And the bigger issues are to keep a roof over their head and food on the table. Because of said CEOs.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

That's almost the exact qoute in my clipboard, and pretty much my response.

Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.

They will have bigger issues to care about. the quiet part said out loud.

How can you be so oblivious? When you're the biggest issue people have, then you get to act all indignant when people deals with their issues.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

They have bigger issues to care about.

Issues caused mostly by CEOs.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I mean... I wouldn't be too unhappy to see some rage directed towards the board of directors.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

They aren't oblivious, they're just relying on the operation of our society and their personal and organizational power to protect them. They don't give a fuck, and they don't want to give a fuck.

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about

I hope this guy gets it next. How fucking out of touch can you be that you dismiss this as "a mentally ill person doing mentally ill things"? What a fucking loser!

[-] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's insulting toward, what I believe to be, a plurality of the population. Luigi was a gift of a wake-up call. They'd do well to listen. Though, only government could really remedy the situation, and that's not likely to happen. So we lurch forward toward instability. The powers at be seem more intent on transfixing the masses with fictions, distractions, and eventually: war.

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[-] s_s@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

I'd like to see one of these publications post recipes for CEO stew.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

Plot twist: the virus was actually the billionaires

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

This has gotta be Elon Musk, right? Nobody else is using that stupid phrase, right? RIGHT?

[-] edgarde@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

You're out of touch with billionaire culture if you think Elon is the only one who thinks this way.

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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Bill George, a former Medtronic CEO and executive fellow at Harvard Business School. “People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

Which "people"? Who are "they" in this context?

Actually most of those quotes read as completely disconnected from normal people's reality...

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Assholes who do the least amount of work and take 95% of the profit can't figure out why the people who actually make the company money see them as parasites.

Maybe have your Private jet fly you up a few thousand feet higher for a better view and you might be able to figure it out. Fucking assholes.

It won't be enough to eliminate the CEO's. You've got to get the whole c suite and their kids. That should give them the perspective they need.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Ah.

As an ADHD person. Generalizing, strategizing, finding critical points and all that are too very important tasks. Many people seem to think these are equivalent to "doing the least amount of work". That's simply not true and you can compare a group where everyone linearly and with great effort always does something and where nobody does the generalizing and strategizing or even failure finding tasks, inevitably spending a lot of time chilling looking at the clouds or just thinking, to a group built normally. A hint - the latter will perform much better.

And as an ASD person. You heavily underestimate the importance and uniqueness of skills for the political part. People who become CEOs are usually incredibly gifted in that direction. I'm impaired in that direction even compared to most people, so I can see just how important it is.

And in general about assholes and not being able to figure something out ... humanity works by Darwin's laws. No matter what morality you preach in schools, no matter how much you talk about love and helping each other, the people on top are very capable. If you want something to change in any order of things, you should first accept the fact that their power is perpetually challenged and they win against those challenges preserving that power. They are quite smart.

They may see some things with aberrations. We all do.

But looking at those people and saying they understand something worse than you is similar to Soviet propaganda talking about Western world as something which is going to rot on its own, because its strategy for the future is so much dumber than the Soviet one. The weaker side does not win by being arrogant in addition to weakness.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

This was at the end of the article Forbes presented me with:

Do you have what it takes to make it to the C-suite? Learn how Fortune 500 CEOs overcame surprising obstacles on the road to the corner office...

I don't want to make it to the C-suite. That sounds awful. I want to help specific people solve problems they have helping other people.

Do other people think like this? Like they want a corner office and a big car? Am I that fucking abnormal that this sounds like a death sentence to me?

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Actually a lot of "normal" people do want that.

And many even not very "normal" people may easily lose their mind thinking they have the opportunity to become powerful.

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

— “My challenge is keeping employees engaged. How do you maintain a sense of purpose if you think your customers hate you?”

Your customers DO hate you. It's not just what you think, it's reality.

Maybe rather than trying to maintain a sense of purpose for what you're doing, you should take a step back and question WHAT you're doing, and whether it has any purpose in society at all other than making you money?

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