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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 100 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Why do they have to be black? America is bizarrely obsessed with race, I've never seen anything like it both in person and on the internet.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Because they still get shut out of opportunities based solely on their skin color, names, and application photos. So they work together to create their own opportunities and are rightfully proud of that. America can stop worrying about race when we finally end racism.

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[–] eyelevel@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (16 children)

Sure, it can seem on the surface like wanting to support people of a particular race is in itself a kind of racism, or at least a situation that emphasizes unfair distinctions.

Unfortunately, race does still matter in America, even if we personally disagree with it or want to ignore it. The health and economic research data make it very clear that people of color in America, especially black people, experience harder lives in almost every category. This is due to both recurring experiences of present-day prejudice and discrimination, as well the inter-generational impacts of wealth inequality and psychological trauma.

You might already know about this, but redlining is one example of the way that patterns of discrimination can creates a systemic effect, which, in turn, can impact the physical and financial effects on a family across time. These kinds of systemic effects can then make it harder for current generations of these families to recover and live safe lives today though, we personally might celebrate that the policy doesn't exist anymore, and even though we personally might say that we don't support people acting like that anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

No one really has to do anything, but some people might choose to support groups of people or organizations who they think might have experienced similar kinds of hardships in their families, and might be glad to have a way to try to do something different with their money than give it to another multinational corporation every time.

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[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (18 children)

I would prefer knowing my money is going to people who have been systematically disadvantaged for this nation's entire history.

I suppose your post could imply other minorities could be included but the way I read your comment gives off big WLM energy.

Edit: spelling

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Yeah and I understand your thought process. However the entire point is to skip large corporations and buy food from local farmers. Again, why do they have to be black? Coming from a country not obsessed with race, the very mention of race prior to a product or service, seems strange and segregating in itself.

Race should just be taken out of it, support your farmers. That is my point.

And fuck off with the white lives matter shit. I would say the same shit to white farmers, Latino farmers etc. Race+service = bizarre.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (13 children)

I still love how everyone acts like America is the only racist country on the planet.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

We wanted to pretend it was ending ourselves until 2016.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (10 children)

It's because America is obsessed with race, and has systematically attempted to demolish black economic power from the foundation of the society, that people may choose to shop this way.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

This is like, 50% the value of pissing off people in power.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 days ago

It's a bit sad that it's just the "black farmers". If possible, getting your stuff from a local market or even a farmer is always a good thing, no matter if it's a black or white farmer. I have that here in austria where I get most of my meat and cheese directly from the farmer and it's not just insanely tasty but also cheaper than from the grocery store.

Strong communities thrive together.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are Americans so obsessed with skin colour

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

It's a nation founded on racism and the back of race based slavery. That shit doesn't disappear overnight, unfortunately.

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's cool, but buying produce from your neighbors is also cool. Strong communities thrive together

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

To everybody saying "reverse racism" or whatever your wording is to imply that buying specifically from black people is problematic, why? Do you think that you would have a hard time finding a white run CSA to buy? This is just a resource for people interested in supporting the black community and frankly I see any form of opposition to it as pretty blatant racism itself. I'll return from a Google search with what I find for other race specified CSA indexes in a bit.

I'm back,

https://www.queerfarmernetwork.org/

Here's an LGBTQ farm share directory. Is it reverse bigotry to purchase from them? I had to play with search terms a bit but a combination of CSA, farm share, agriculture share, and your chosen identifier should produce you results.

I am genuinely looking for an answer because I'm fucking baffled by this thread.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In Taiwan, we had "day markets" where local farmers and fishers sell produce directly to you from the previous day's harvest. Every city has at least a few dozen day markets as well. It really serves the community and not big corps.

Some veggies still have live bugs(ladybugs) on it. That's how fresh it is.

It also cost 1/4 the cost in a corporate grocery store.

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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I rather not give people money by merit of the colour of their skin, though. Fuck me, right?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The fact that it's cheaper for you and they get paid more than the middle man would pay should be enough for you.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I've gone to farmer's markets and although the stuff is good, some of it is pricey. There are stuff like lettuce and stuff that are cheaper but most of stuff like berries and fruits are more expensive.

[–] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yeah unfortunately small or independent farmers simply can't ever compete with factory farms.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But on the bright side, that money (usually) goes right back into your local economy, instead of lining the pockets of some rich asshole from five states away who has a chain of grocery stores.

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