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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

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we fucked up (chapo.chat)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by CARCOSA@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net
 

Hello users of hexbear, or shall i say chapo.chat, we fucked up, and i fucked up like three times making this post.

Yes, hexbear.net has expired. Yes, we were aware of this possibility. We have gradually lost contact with the access owner (prior admin) for the domain registration. We attempted to make a migration plan, but we were disarmed by the reappearance of the party in question in September 2024 and repeated assurances that they would a) transfer credentials and b) continue payments until they were able to do the former.

We accept full responsibility for this. We should have been more aggressive about this and continued our alternative despite these reassurances. This is our fuck up, and we can't offer anything besides our continued apologies and our plan of action going forward and an explanation of what happened:

Over the time of chapo.chat and hexbear.net the admins that purchased the domain, established the donation accounts, and the server accounts have left. One of the primary admins has gone inactive and returned many times, over a year ago some of the newer admins began asking the older admins to give full access to the domain, servers, and donations. These requests were not met, despite warnings of this exact event.

At the moment we do not have access to hexbear.net and there is a strong chance we will not get it back without participating in the auction, which is already over $300. Choosing to abandon the hexbear.net domain will cause federation problems and considerable technical issues which would lead to potential extended downtime.

During this downtime we would be reestablishing access to the new domain (or hexbear.net if we win the auction), access to server ownership, and donation accounts. This would be distributed among a number of admins so that we can prevent this from happening again.

Chapo.chat has the same access problem that led to the current state of hexbear.net so it is to be considered temporary.

I will do my best to answer questions

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

So how are we going to contact everyone that's still using the old domain and has no idea what's happening? There are people that rely on this website for funds to survive in Palestine, and we have homeless users and users struggling to make rent that also rely on us. It would be terrible if they just thought that we dropped off of the face of the Earth and were left stranded.

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[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If we end up with a new domain, does that mean we can federate with the lib instances again and go back to dunking and general joy?

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

spoiler

Yes, hexbear.net has expired. Yes, we were aware of this possibility. We have gradually lost contact with the access owner (prior admin) for the domain registration. We attempted to make a migration plan, but we were disarmed by the reappearance of the party in question in September 2024 and repeated assurances that they would a) transfer credentials and b) continue payments until they were able to do the former.

Over the time of chapo.chat and hexbear.net the admins that purchased the domain, established the donation accounts, and the server accounts have left. One of the primary admins has gone inactive and returned many times, over a year ago some of the newer admins began asking the older admins to give full access to the domain, servers, and donations. These requests were not met, despite warnings of this exact event.

At the moment we do not have access to hexbear.net and there is a strong chance we will not get it back without participating in the auction, which is already over $300. Choosing to abandon the hexbear.net domain will cause federation problems and considerable technical issues which would lead to potential extended downtime.

Are you kidding me... welp

[–] Biddles@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Is the party in question TransComrade69?

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[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

oh, so that's why hexbear.net leads to a domain selling site.

how did you guys find out the full story? i used lemmygrad.ml

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[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This is a half-serious question, but would it be possible to host hexbear on the TOR network? I don't think Lemmy was designed with TOR in mind, but it would be a neat option for people in case there is a mass IP banlisting of leftist sites in certain countries, particularly of the global northern persuasion.

The downtime will affect people in mutual aid the most so I don't think bidding for the domain name would help anyone. If it does get hijacked by some reactionary chud and links to Tinyman square or something that would only be more of the same publicity this site has always gotten.

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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago
[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The agreement that any money spent on the bidding war for the domain would be better spent on mutual aid is why I love this site :visit-hexbear.net-heart:

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

We can just get a new domain for cheaper

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[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

how is it that I got here with no issue and can read this post? was the outage just an initial DNS issue related to the expiry?

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

or backend devs worked to redirect chapo.chat to the server

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How long was the admin team aware of this imminently happening?

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[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for contacting Sav support and using our services.

I understand the urgency and concern regarding the domain hexbear.net, especially given its importance to your site's users and the potential security risks involved. It's clear that the situation is challenging, and I empathize with the difficulties you're facing due to the previous domain holder's absence. Upon checking, the domain you mentioned is currently in an expiring auction, as it has exceeded the grace renewal period. But don't worry! You have a chance to get the domain by participating in the auction on the following link: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net. If you win, the domain will be renewed for one year and transferred directly to your account. Please note that it's not possible to intervene or cancel the active auction. We encourage you to participate in the auction to secure the domain before it ends. I hope this information helps you in securing the domain and ensuring the continued safety and accessibility of your site.

Best Regards,

Scott

Seems like the auction can't be stopped

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[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I sent a message to SAV explaining the situation to see if there's anything they can do.

There has recently been a lapse in domain registration for the site hexbear.net and said domain has entered the auction phase.

This domain is currently hosting an active site with many daily users, the previous domain holder has vanished and the lapse in payment was not something the current administration team was able to rectify without their information.

Currently, the site has been redirected to chapo.chat, but losing the hexbear.net registration will pose a large security risk for users of the site as a malicious actor could MITM them.

If there is any way we could transfer domain ownership to someone affiliated with the current site's administration team, possibly paying a fine for missed payment and ending the auction it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Hate to say it but this is the problem with everything online

The revolution will not be televised and all that (for various reasons)

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Pour one out for hexbear, I had to load chapo.chat. End of an era.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

lol, lmao even

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Forgive my ignorance but are there any opsec implications that come from losing the domain? Just a lil paranoid

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[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I hate that my new computer doesn't have my saved url of Chap chat. I made sure to never switch back in the day

edit: also the twitter account has been inactive for a long time, if we still have access please put up an update. That was the first place I checked. I had to google search last 24 hours "hexbear" to find my way back

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[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

all the emojis, gone (emoji of the all my apes guy here)

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Is this a sign that the zoomer takeover is imminent? Fuck do I have to start talent scouting on regretevator servers already

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When a new domain is a thing do women have any way of letting users know what it'll be ahead of time and when it'll be up and running? I understand downtime, just wanna be sure I can find the place after

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[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Emotes and images are broken for me

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

this is due to the short-term fix of using chapo.chat instead of hexbear.net and is sadly unavoidable

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

we fucked up

Story of Hexbear's life

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

The fuck am i supposed to do at work now

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Goofy mistake that could have been avoided, but the site as a whole isn't going to die from it so hopefully people get over that relatively quickly. So long as new processes are put into place to prevent it from happening again we'll be fine and I have no grudge.

For the record,as far as a new name is concerned I vote we lean into the :fibonacci-bear: bit

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an aside, this site has a way better layout and interface than all the other lemmies. Seriously the most comfortable way to browse and it even works well on mobile.

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

thank @makotech222 for that

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

An now our only hope is for Elon Musk to buy the domain for $500. Ugh, fine, I'll give him a call.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was always set to auto log in , but my password didn't save on chapo.chat and it was an esoteric mishmash of numbers and letters that I have no way of remembering. I didn't attach a recovery email for opsec (paranoia), so I can't recover it. this is the universe telling me to make a new account. time to think of an even funnier bit name.

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