This mostly seems pretty achievable in my eyes. Meat consumption is apparently trending down anyway, even without government intervention. The difficult part may be turning farmland into woodland, because how do you get farmers to convert their source of income into land for trees?
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This is something that irks me about how we have things setup at the moment. Farming produces food. Put money in, get food out. The notion that it also needs to make money is putting the cart before the horse. Yay capitalism.
Subsidise orchards like we do open farm land?
(I am not good enough at this law to know if orchards get the farming subsidies, happy to be informed by Lemmy people)
Orchards are very different from woodland. Trees need to be evenly planted and have much more space than woods. Probably better than nothing but it's not the kind of CO2-sink woodland the CCC is talking about.
I am not good enough at this law
Nor am I. But Do know pre Brexit the EU was funding actual wood land. That is a huge part of the issues farmers have now.
The huge farm subsidies the EU provided were still not replaced or agreed to long after Brexit. I'm not sure if they ever were at all. But farmers were forced to change growing habits with no idea what the gov was going to support.
It was a huge part of way £350m a week was an outright lie. Not only were we not actually sending that much due to discounts. We got a huge chunk back via farm subs, and others.
Still makes me cringe thinking about what we gave up.
Yep. I'm likely older than you. (coincidently bang on the age where the stats placed our votes at 50/50 )
So I was born a few years before we voted to join. And grew up watching most of the benefits becoming a part of UK life. And realise half my generation are fucking insane.
to convert their source of income into land for trees?
The correct trees are income. Less than other sources. But I spose that is where gov needs to step in. But well managed wood cultivation is both CO2 absorbing and would reduce the huge transport harm imported wood causes.
Also, wood is getting insanely costly in the UK due to import costs. It may help other industries.
Also wood absorbs more Co2 in early growth so 10-50 year (depending on wood type). Replant and Investments plans in such land can be very effective.
I genuinely think that most people in the UK would rather destroy the planet than give up eating some meat.
destroy the planet
We're not destroying the planet, we're destroying our offspring (and those of many other species). The planet will still be covered in life after we're gone.
This is a point that needs pushing more.
Save the planet is not only false. But less impactful than just save humankind.
Trying to convert humanity back to low meat diets (again a much easier sell and the real issue is mass production). It is more likely if people are convinced it is their children to great grand children that will Suffer/Die/never happen. Rather than suggesting all life will end.
The sun god will still burn. Just like you did after the last great extinction.
Sorry could not resist the silly joke. I'll go hide in a bottle now
I have largely given up on red meat and cow's milk, I do sometimes have a bit of lamb. It's definitely doable.
Love beef so much but I could easily cut it down by 30%
You literally said the problem was with insulin producing spikes from carbs, and therefore you can't eat a plant based diet. I just showed you evidence that you can indeed eat a plant based diet, carbs or not, and maintain healthy blood sugar levels. And can even reverse diabetes.
It was obvious from the beginning you were being totally disingenuous. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that you'll block over such an inoffensive message confirms my initial suspicion about you. You just don't want to eat a plant based diet and will find any reason not to. You had zero interest in learning and are just here to argue.
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