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There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • ~~Remove Brave~~
  • ~~Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized~~
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • ~~Add GrapheneOS~~
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • ~~Maybe remove Bluesky~~
  • ~~Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)~~
  • ~~Add ente because Immich is selfhosted~~
  • ~~Add aurora~~
  • ~~Add SearxNG~~
  • Add SimpleX
  • Add lichess
  • Add pCloud

Any other suggestions?

Temporary improved version:

From To Compromise
X, Threads Mastodon Bluesky
Instagram Pixelfed
YouTube PeerTube ReVanced (just blocks adds)
Reddit Lemmy
Netlix, Disney+ ๐Ÿ”จ Jellyfin
Google Meet, Zoom Jitsi Meet
Google Docs Etherpad
Google Search ๐Ÿ”จ SearxNG Kagi, Ecosia
Google Drive Nextcloud pCloud, filen, Proton Drive
Google Photos, iCloud Immich Ente
Google Chrome Librewolf, Firefox Ungoogled-chromium
All messaging apps Element (matrix) Signal
Google Home, Amazon Alexa Home Assistant
Play Store F-droid, Aurora
Google Android, iOS LineageOS, GrapheneOS
Windows, MacOS Linux Mint

๐Ÿ”จ = Self-Hosted only (requires running a server)

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[โ€“] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I see that this is focused on foss alternatives streaming wise I would suggest mubi and your local library which often include streaming services. At least here in Germany.

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[โ€“] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Revanced is cool and all, but there are alternatives. One of them is Newpipe and its forks, it's my personal favourite. Pretty sure 95% of people here already know it. But fyi, they have their own associated little nonprofit organisation based in Germany, the Newpipe e.V., which I found out about only recently and thought was pretty neat.

[โ€“] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

The phrase about freedom and convenience in the OP image reminds me of what France's foreign minister recently said about Europe's relationship with the USA:

We are faced with a choice that is imposed on us, between effort and freedom, or comfort and servitude

[โ€“] menas@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fun that Element is on the list, while there is a 3rd bill attempt in a year to forbid or bypass encryption in instant messaging. Europe maybe not as fascist as US or Russia, it's still is a shitty capitalist and imperialist place.

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[โ€“] Jagget@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Delta Chat is European and is better alternative for messaging apps

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[โ€“] kepix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

if you know its a faulty picture, why didnt you edit it?

[โ€“] nestle@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would add SimpleX, Session, Threema, and Signal. Telegram sucks, and while I love the stickers, it sucks. As the other person said, Stremio is torrenting, which puts your IP address on as billboard. Donโ€™t do it without a VPN or running it through Tor or I2P. I would add every Proton/Tuta product as an alternative to one of the 3000 Google products, like Gmail and Drive. However, I will ALWAYS recommend privacyguides.org ;3

[โ€“] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you cram the reason Telegram sucks into a few sentences?

[โ€“] aicse@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)
  • No encryption by default (you have to start a secret chat to have end-to-end encrypted communication).
  • No encryption for group chats and there is no option for secret group chats.
  • They store all your chat history on their server and have the keys to decrypt it at any time.
  • They have a pretty shitty support, if you need to report a bug or something, you can't easily do that.
  • They have a broken testing process for new features, may be pushed to streamline without making sure those work properly. I don't use it as my main communication app but even with rare occasions - the app crashes way too often.
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[โ€“] jamie_oliver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So as someone who recently went from MacOS to Linux (at least partially) Mint is terrible for macOS users. It is like going back to windows. I get it is the easiest for Windows users but maybe add a row for Macos to Fedora or something (but maybe it is too complicated, I just know most mac users would scoff at Mint's interface).

[โ€“] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Actually a solid point, we should suggest a flavor of Linux that prefers Gnome for Mac users. It's the closest default to their workflow afaik

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[โ€“] iamericandre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Any good euro alternatives for adobe suite?

[โ€“] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

You may want to clarify which parts you want to replace. As a whole suite, there isnt anything I am aware of, but each individual part usually has one or more open source alternatives

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[โ€“] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

https://simplex.chat/

[โ€“] ThePantser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Home assistant is the gold standard for home automation now, they are light-years ahead of anything from the big tech. Billions of dollars and they can't even make a usable home automation service.

[โ€“] perry@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Why is blue sky in the right side column? Itโ€™s the same thing as X.

[โ€“] alexaralvarado@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Currently on mobile and hardly working. Can somebody please do an edit removing fakeogtwitter and the homophobecrytofascistbrowser from this list? The send it to op for replacement. Please and thank you. Cheers.

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[โ€“] DreasNil@feddit.nu 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also add Fairphone (Netherlands) and Nothing (UK) as alternatives to iPhone and other Androids.

[โ€“] keyez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I thought that section was more to get away from stock android and google rather than just US companies, I have a nothing phone and it very much uses regular android and google services though the bootloader is unlockable to install something like LineageOS.

[โ€“] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seriously add Signal, seconding your bullet point. It hits a great sweet spot of privacy and convenience for convincing people who are hesitant about new apps.

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[โ€“] Roopappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I recently moved Gmail, Google Docs and Sheets, Google Keep (tasks) and Drive to Mailbox.org. It's super affordable and works really well. You can edit docs/sheets online or offline. No self-hosting required. I recommend it. It's located in Germany.

[โ€“] m2Lm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

This is the alternatives that I use:

X - Mastodon | YouTube - PC Youtube with uBlock Origin, android ReVanced | Netlix, Disney+ - Stremio (With VPN!) | Google Search - Qwant ~~Startpage~~ | Google Drive - Proton Drive | Google Chrome - Mullvad, Librewolf and Brave (with crypto stuf disabled) | Messaging apps - Session (<3) | Google Android - LineageOS | Windows, MacOS - Linux Mint or Fedora with KDE | Microsoft Office - LibreOffice | VPN - Mullvad (or proton vpn) | Google Maps - Wego.here.com or en.mapy.cz | Google Maps Navigation (Waze) - Sygic or TomTom AmiGO | Google Translate - DeepL | Google Gmail - Tutanota or Proton Mail | Google Authenticator - Ente Auth or Aegis | Password Manager - Bitwarden or KeePass | ChatGPT - Mistral Le Chat |

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[โ€“] Foni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Nextcloud is not the same as Google Drive. Element is not the same as Netflix. Recommending bluesky as a replacement for X is at least misleading, it is neither European nor free nor is it anywhere near better than X.

Edit: Stremio comparison with Netflix wanted to say

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[โ€“] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm a millennial, so I'm still checking the nightmare that is Facebook here and there, what's the alternative?

Edit: On second look I'm not so sure how good this list really is...

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