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Democrats playing footsy with fascist Charlie Kirk over hating trans people. This is the party that's supposed to be the great defenders of LGBT people?

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said in his debut podcast episode of “This is Gavin Newsom.” “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”

Newsom’s comments on the issue roiling political debates nationwide came in a conversation with influential MAGA-world figure Charlie Kirk, the campus culture warrior who leads the organization Turning Point USA and is a close ally of President Donald Trump and his son, Donald Trump Jr.

Newsom also agreed that the most politically destructive attack ads from Trump’s campaign featured Kamala Harris’ support for providing taxpayer-funded gender transition-related medical care for detained immigrants and federal prisoners.

“She didn’t even react to it, which was even more devastating,” Newsom said, suggesting upward of 90 percent of Americans disagreed with Harris’ position. “Then you had the video [of Harris] as a validator. Brutal,” Newsom added. “It was a great ad.”

Kirk challenged Newsom, a likely 2028 presidential hopeful, to speak out against AB Hernandez, a transgender high school track star from California whose triple jump event in the women’s competition is drawing fierce backlash from the right. Newsom said he has four children of his own — including two daughters — and noted that both he and his wife participated in college-level sports, she in soccer and he in baseball.

“I revere sports, so the issue of fairness is completely legit,” Newsom said. “And I saw that — the last couple years, boy did I [see] how you guys were able to weaponize that issue at another level.”

Kirk challenged Newsom over his use of the word “weaponize,” and Newsom replaced it with “highlight.”

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Democrats have mostly decided that moving further to the right is the way to go. That it didn't help them in the 2024 election doesn't seem to matter. At some point, I hope the few who have kept their values intact start their own party.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Gavin Newsome wants to be the savior of the DNC and to ride the wave of anti-Trump sentiment to become a popular and beloved leader. But he's a monster with strangely close ties to the Trump family via his ex-wife Kimberly Guilfoyle, Don Jr.'s girlfriend.

Newsome can't be trusted and it's nice to see he's showing why by speaking his mind. He was shitty as a mayor and is reactionary as a governor.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Right? It's an odd way to say "embraces the party abandonment of the politically unpopular people."

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Ladies and gentlemen the "new" direction of the Democrats.

Excuse me while I go puke.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 months ago

Frankly the question of transgender women in sports should be answered by those in the women's sports associations and their players. Anyone else is simply not invested enough to have a fair perspective on the matter. Let's be honest here, how many people even watch women's sports to begin with? Still, it sucks Newsom sounded off like this.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As goes California, so goes the nation. Liberals have been taking baby steps for years now to slowly shove us back into the closets.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's how incrementalism actually works.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A steadfast march to the right, incremental fascism

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Goddam liberals.

[–] anon@lemmus.org 2 points 4 months ago

I agree with Gavin Newsome.

Apparently, attempting to have a conversation about it here is also offensive to moderation. If you even question trans people or the trans community, you're immediately moderated.

And they say Lemmy is an alternative to Reddit. 🙄

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's an interesting and nuanced conversation to be had about fairness in sports. Many athletic associations have guidelines in place that allow trans athletes to compete in a way that is as fair as possible to them and other competitors. Are they all perfect? Probably not, but having this conversation in the first place is the best way to ensure these associations can make competition as fair as possible to trans and cis athletes alike.

But of course this conversation will never take place, because the goal was never to make women's sports more fair. It's always been about trans erasure.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The easy solution is to get the government (including schools) out of sports entirely. Make them independent clubs, and they can set their own rules.

Schools are too focused on their sports programs anyway.