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    [–] garretble@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Windows is great because if you plug your mouse into one USB port then maybe you move the mouse to another, it completely forgets that mouse ever existed and is like β€œsetting up device!”

    Bro, you know what this is.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It sure is great. If I remember correctly, there was a Windows 95 error saying "keyboard not found, press F2 to continue."

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    No it wasn't just win95 but also IBM DOS and BIOS.

    Keyboard not found, press F2 to continue asks the users to either plug in a keyboard and the press F2 on that one to continue or press F2 on an unrecognised keyboard so that the OS could pick it up.

    It would then reload the driver's for the PS/2 keyboard and continue as normal.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

    Thanks for the explanation!

    It still does look funny though.

    [–] thisbenzingring 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    well technically.... USB initialization isn't that simple, when you change which port it's plugged into, it's numerated under that new memory space, so from the computers perspective, it's a different number, it's a different device.

    [–] garretble@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Is that just obfuscated on other platforms (like MacOS)? I don't think I've ever had a Mac get "confused" by a device by changing its port.

    [–] thisbenzingring 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    the other OS's don't store the configuration in the registry, that's the main difference

    [–] garretble@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I see.

    So Windows just needs to git gud.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

    Git gut by using a sane POSIX architecture just like any other OS out there.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

    Could be like Linux where a lot of drivers are in the kernel and it doesn't need to add drivers every time you plug something in

    [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Usually you have a vendor and a device id to identify the connected device on the bus

    You're right though, that in every different port it will get its own memory allocated an so on (at least I also believe that), but that's no reason to not identify the already known device

    [–] thisbenzingring 3 points 1 day ago

    there are a couple IDs in the device manager, if you look closely you will see where it changes, and then search the registry for that string and you will find how crazy Windows can be with USB hardware. Actually stripping out those ID's is a huge pain. I only know because of having to make legacy hardware work for work

    it was worse with USB1 and old drivers wouldn't unload so then when you unplugged them and plugged them back in, sometimes they wouldn't work unless you rebooted. Windows is stupid

    That's very unlikely to happen. Once the driver is installed via Windows update it doesn't magically uninstall itself.

    [–] windpunch@feddit.org 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    "There's a problem with your USB storage device"

    *Continues to work just fine, just as if there is no problem*

    [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Its because you didnt eject beforehand and theres orphaned inodes or data blocks

    No, it's because I use it on linux and windows can tell. Windows hates me for my freedom.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    "You need to manually eject your USB drive before you remove it" - statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

    Also, half the time when you try to eject it, it says "device busy" even though I'm not transferring files. Well, best of luck with that bud, I'm busy too yank

    [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

    That's because some program still accesses it

    Could be just your file browser ("explorer") that has a window open with the content of that device, or maybe some program has a hiccup and didn't free it's file pointer

    [–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    In the worst-case scenario, yes... but the wording on the Windows dialog literally says, "There is a problem with your device and you should scan it" and then when you do, "Your device is ready to use, no problems were found." This, after it was ejected and got the safe removal notification. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    [–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 1 points 13 hours ago

    The file system was not unmounted cleanly so the dirty bit is 1 -> windows tells you to check the drive. This clears the dirty bit even if nothing was wrong.

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] user224 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Laughs in ISO 9660 on disc.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    ☠️ in IBM 12-row/80-column punched card format

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

    ext is just so simple yet beauti- and useful