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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Crashing the stock market may be the plan here. Follow me on this ...

Crashing the market and removing 20 to 30 percent of value.

Then at the low point invest heavily into the DOW.

Now support the market and get it back to previous levels.

Fucking rich fucks just made 30% in 1 to 2 years on that investment.

[–] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 days ago

Hey now you're forgetting that they're also going short on everything and making money on the fucking way down too!

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (20 children)

With no DOE employees to process defaults?

Nobody should be paying a red cent.

If your choice is draining your entire bank account to the point you can't afford to live or suffering a credit score penalty, then the credit score should be sacrificed.

"but they can..."

Stop. Nothing they can do is worse than starving. Don't pay them. Use your money for your own needs.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish more people understood no one can stop you if there is no one to stop you.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wish Trump didn't understand that.

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[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 52 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Just don't pay. Debt-strikes are far more damaging than a work-stoppage.

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Could you explain to non-Americans what is the appeal of student loans if they can do this? Why shouldn't people go to cheaper schools to get their degrees instead? I mean no disrespect, if you are rich go to Yale or whatever, by all means.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (15 children)

There are no cheaper schools. There are expensive ones and more expensive ones. There is literally no option for the non-rich except to go into debt or learn to be a plumber.

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[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Children are told that they MUST go to college to get a stable and high paying job. This is so prevalent that college degrees are just seen as “the next step after high school” and nobody questions it. These colleges have figured out they can charge almost anything because they are seen as the gate keepers to high paying and stable jobs. So banking on future earnings, bearly emancipated teenagers, with the absolute minimum of a financial education, make life decisions that will put them in debt for the next 20-30 years.

The problem with the whole system is there doesn’t appear to be enough high paying and stable jobs.

As far as going to a cheaper college, I think you identified the issue in your very own comment. Schools have different prestige levels. Yale, for example, is a high prestige school and not only are you paying for an education, you are also paying to connect to rich people. These connections can be worth a lot of money if they are used correctly. So going to a cheaper college also means less valuable connections.

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[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I went to a really cheap school. My master’s was 40k.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago

There are no such thing as cheaper schools. They got rid of that because they were angry college students protested the Vietnam War. So now getting an education means doing business with the worst loan shark you've ever heard of, legally protected from bankruptcy. The thing you have to understand about America is that everything is a scam. Like healthcare or housing or a child care and a bunch of other things I'm not even thinking about

[–] vext01 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same as in the UK I imagine. No university is affordable. Unless you are rich, you can't go without a loan.

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